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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Falkrix » Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:13 pm

[quote="Drunken Bob"]
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If you want to pay that much money just to make a lightsaber, be my guest. It'll cost you about 30$ or more in paint though...
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I don't look at that as 30$ in paint, I look at it as 30$ going to annoy BH, and that is well worth it
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Wynar » Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:36 pm

I'm thinkin' I'm gonna have to do up one of them there torches with the glowie goodness...mmm...persecutialicious...
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Falkrix » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:53 pm

[quote="stylgar"]
I'd put the Plasti Dip over the cheaper bluefoam. That stuff is still good enough to be the main foam.[/quote]

You can, it just comes out with a wavy surface unless you put fun foam over it...
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Tallanvor » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:07 pm

Hi wynar, had a ? for yeah about what have you found to be the best paint for getting the beautiful metal look? thanks
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Wynar » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:15 pm

Liquitex medium viscosity
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Tallanvor » Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:07 pm

thanks wynar for the Info. on the paint...sorry to bother you again with another ?...PD ..thinning is a bad thing seems to thick and leaves heavy brush marks..whats your take on it?
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Wynar » Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:55 pm

I usually just work it really fast like.  Falkrix has been thinning it with napthol I think and he's been getting great results.
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby FairionofEryndor » Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:43 pm

Terrible question coming up Wynar! .... sorry in advance. I'm going to ask if X works when you used Y....

Someone asked about for clear if the spray worked... Any idea at all? Or the person who was asking about it, do you have a report back on if it worked? That is pretty much all i can find in the area for the Clear, without ordering it online.. which is my next step if spray is a total no go. If it does work, i found clear spray at Ace Hardware... I called around a bit and every Ace I talked to had the clear in spray, with lost of various colors in the brush form.

Thanks in advance! *goes and puts hockey helmet back on*


Below is my first attempt at this... i used blue foam because i was just testing out this plasti dip stuff... :) I actually screwed up and stripped the foam and did it again. But now (to some degree) i think i got the hang of working with plasti dip. I would also like to point out that i am not very good with a paint brush :) lol

[img width=320 height=240]http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4200/picture006xd.jpg[/img]http://g.imageshack.us/img196/picture006xd.jpg/1/

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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Wynar » Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:12 pm

Club looks pretty okee dokee

My real worry with most paints, sprays or otherwise, is their flexibility over time.
Most paints are meant for a rigid surface, dry hard, and crack easily.
If you had to knuckle down and use a clear spray, look for one that mentions for use on fabrics.  Those sometimes are meant for t-shirts and such and tend to be more flexible. 
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby FairionofEryndor » Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:29 pm

FYI, as far as i know The Spray Clear plastic dip "seems" to have worked. I basically just sprayed it on there the took a brush to make sure it when on the weapon evenly...

Although, I have no used the regular clear PD so i have nothing to compare it to but it seems to have worked out... I'll let you know once it has gotten some good usage...

BTW, Wynar, thanks so much for this tutorial... It really is great. Although, i'm sure athron is pissed at you for posting it because when i was doing this i would call him like 2-3 times a day with questions on what the hell i was doing. Wait, Athron loves talking to me so he probably will thank you for posting this .... woot! double win!

Seriously though, this rocks face so hard...
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Wynar » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:35 pm

SWEET!

Anything to crank Athron's tractor!

Gonna have to give that spray pd a try myself.  Seems like if nothing else it would save some time.
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Disirregardlessly hivemind » Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:38 pm

I would like to interject that 6mm FunFoam sucks mahbawlz to work with.

That is all.
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Wynar » Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:14 pm

[quote="hivemind"]
I would like to interject that 6mm FunFoam sucks mahbawlz to work with.

That is all.
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Anything short of scalpel sharp and you've got yourself a suckbucket.
Now way around it you've got to either do a lot of blade change outs or you've got to be constantly stropping your knives when working with the funfoam.
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Disirregardlessly hivemind » Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:26 pm

I choose option 3: give it to my wife for whatever she wants it for and just use the 2mm and 3 mm from now on. :)
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Falkrix » Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:30 pm

Which is why I can't wait to get my damn dremel back...
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Saint » Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:46 pm

Wynar if you could  contact me though my website I have some questions and other things to ask you....
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Olren (Formerly Traugott) » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:30 am

you can use PD on shields, right? like no cloth required?
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Wynar » Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:50 am

More than a couple of folks are playing around with pd shields.  There has been a lot of debate about the rules legality of it, most seeming to steer towards it's ok.  I'd chat with your realm about it as far as rules go.
Heck there's a few realms that are debating and testing the possibility of all pd weapons.

I know it's kind of a non answer, but check with your realm leaders.
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Magnus » Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:04 pm

I feel I should mention that for many kinds of shields, especially those of the Medieval or classical Greek period, it is much more realistic to use a painted canvas cover.  Plastidip would be best used for shield bosses, or perhaps metal shield rims.
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Falkrix » Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:02 pm

[quote="Noban Et'Garou"]
you can use PD on shields, right? like no cloth required?
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I have one that saw it's first major practice today (I took it to a little practice on Wednesday) and everybody loves it... I've had absolutely zero complaints, but many compliments (on how it hits mostly: it hits nicer than many shields covered with cloth). I did it that way because I want to paint it to look like it's bone, and cloth just doesn't work well for that kind of effect (not that holds up for a long period of time anyways).

Magnus is absolutely right on the realism thing though: it just depends on what kind of shield you are going for whether you want to use it or not.

And I would highly recommend that you don't use PD on an item unless you are going to do your best on the whole thing: PD can make anything look nicer, but it won't make a failing weapon/shield pass.
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Falkrix » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:48 pm

OK! After experiencing it myself, I think I have an idea as to why the clear PD has pealing issues (somewhere around 90% sure I know why), and will be testing it here in the near future (probably the week after Badon). Stay posted.
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby FairionofEryndor » Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:36 pm

Hey wynar, I actually was able to compare the spray to dip. I would not use the spray. The spray appears to just be a very very thin layer. Go with the dip...
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Wynar » Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:18 pm

I have been wondering about the kind of coverage you could get out of the spray cans.
I've also been thinking about thinning down the regular stuff and running it through a spray gun.  Kinda fearful of gumming up the guts of my guns.
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby FairionofEryndor » Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:19 pm

Yeah, if you dig around a little the company has a suggested gun for that. I don't remember what it was or where i saw it. But the spray just puts such a thin layer. To get the thickness that i desired it took almost a full can of spray to cover a 12 by 12 sheet of foam with 2 only layers...
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Morlock » Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:11 pm

Just a note of how the great Wynar's work is spreading.  His work can be found on several other fighting organization's forums.  Can't list them here, but Wynar is soon to be a house hold name.
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Falkrix » Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:22 pm

[quote="FairionofEryndor"]
Yeah, if you dig around a little the company has a suggested gun for that. I don't remember what it was or where i saw it. But the spray just puts such a thin layer. To get the thickness that i desired it took almost a full can of spray to cover a 12 by 12 sheet of foam with 2 only layers...
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Ewch! Yeah, you get a whole lot more out of a can...

In other news, my first (well, second, but first I am going to use in battle this way) all PD covered sword is almost done.  I just have to get myself to finish the PD (half is covered in one layer so far) because Lady K broke her wrist at work and I had to take her to the ER as I was covering it. So it's sitting half-finished, just waiting for me...

Not sure if I am going to paint it or not, although I am leaning towards just doing it (won't take too long, just doing something simple...)
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby ishmael » Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:04 pm

Just wondering has anyone worked with liquid latex for molds...? Most Larp weapons are made of it right?....Has anyone compared the two PD and Liquid latex...i too was thinking about thinning PD any putting it in my cap spray...or Liquid latex??
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Oisín Leathshúileach » Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:17 pm

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Postby Wynar » Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:44 pm

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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Falkrix » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:48 pm

[quote=&quot;ishmael&quot;]
Just wondering has anyone worked with liquid latex for molds...? Most Larp weapons are made of it right?....Has anyone compared the two PD and Liquid latex...i too was thinking about thinning PD any putting it in my cap spray...or Liquid latex??
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I have done the whole molding thing quite a bit in the past.

PD is a bit thicker than slush latex, and when it is dry it is a bit tougher and less tear-prone when thin, as well as it doesn't need any kind of sealant. Normally you need to put a flexible clear coat over latex after powdering it down to make sure it retains its integrity over time, otherwise is will eventually begin to break down. This also keeps it from being too "grabby." Of course, if you are only making a prosthetic for maybe 5-10 uses, you only need to powder it, but for large prosthetics and applications, a finish is the key to long-lasting products.

It is also much easier to paint PD. Low-medium viscosity acrylics will bond to it easily and stay on well when they have been recoated with another product such as clear PD or a flexible spray-on clear coat like the one Krylon makes. Latex, on the other hand, must be painted with special mixes of paint, normally referred to as PAX. This is basically a mixture of a prosthetic adhesive (Pros-aide), and low/medium-viscosity adhesive paint in varying ratios for different applications. Otherwise the paint simply won't stick to the piece for any long period of time, and will begin to crack and flake shortly after application. It is important to note that straight acrylic will sometimes do the same on PD if it isn't given a clear coat of some kind to help hold it in place.

I started using PD because of the allergy issues some people have with latex, which unfortunately includes Lady Katrinka. Which means I can't use any kind of latex product around her.

Once I get the time (which probably won't be until this summer) I am going to do some experiments with slush-molding PD as well as using it in conjunction with a soft-foaming polyurethane for decorative pieces (hilts and blade applications mostly), and perhaps using a hard casting plastic-rubber (like polyurethane) for the cores of my handles and pommels. I have the designs and I know what to get and how to do it (I've done most of it before actually), I just simply don't have the time at the moment. I also need to start building the capital to "invest" in some better tools, like a belt sander, miter saw, bench grinder, and band saw, as well as finding a space to put all this stuff. There are some nice cheap studios in downtown Cinci...

I am also pretty sure that you can thin down PD to the point of being able to put it through a spray-gun (I've seen it done with latex too), although as with any spray application you will get overspray, and eventually end up with a room coated in PD (or latex). Here's a pic of the spray room at Ataliers-Nemesis.

http://photos-c-6.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos- ... 1992_n.jpg

Some day I might actually get myself a set up similar to theirs, but it is many years down the pike... maybe. It all depends on how things go this spring, really.


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Three things I have found that effect clear PD adhesion.

1. Put it on thick and brush it out, but don't force it. That means, if you feel any resistance to the brushing, stop. PD is wonderfully self-leveling much like a good acrylic paint, and if you work quickly you can get a nice, thick, even, flexible coat that will last for a long time. Over-brushing causes microscopic stringing, which will keep any adhesion from setting up, leading to weird sun-burn like pealing over just about the whole thing.

2. LET THE PAINT DRY! Acrylic paints dry through evaporation. So if the paint isn't 100% dry, water will come out under the PD as the paint dries, causing bubbles that will rub off. Other paints will do the same thing (but sometimes with gasses): let the paint dry longer than you think, especially if you put it on thick.

3. Don't handle the weapon too much once painted. The oils from your hands will lessen the adhesion of the PD to the weapon, to the point where it won't stick in some areas at all. I keep some latex-free gloves on hand (aha) just in case I really need to hold it by something other than the handle while painting or clear-dipping it. For whatever reason, this doesn't seem to be as big an issue with black PD, but I think that is because the foam will allow the oils to dissipate and slightly absorb them, but PD and acrylics will not and the oils will just sit there waiting to ruin your nice weapon. So hold the thing by the handle if you need to hold it at all, and then don't put clear dip over the handle area (unless you are painting and dipping the handle {not normally a great idea, it will get slick if your hands sweat and you don't have gloves} in which case you should use gloves whenever you use the weapon).

4. Let the PD set up completely before handling it. While you are putting the PD on is one thing, but once you are finished, let it sit still until it is completely cured. Just because it feels dry to the touch doesn't mean it is dry underneath. Any kind of impact could easily cause microscopic stringing under the surface, drastically reducing the bond strength, possibly to the point of breaking any kind of adhesive bond.

Also: I need to get my Dremel back and buy a few of those nice high-speed cutter heads... I like the results for that. I looks like it would be best to have both a heat tool (for lettering and texturing) and a dremel (for basic shaping and fine detail work).
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Wynar » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:10 pm

damn Falkrix, you've been doin' your homework.
That's some good info.

I've been thinking for a year about building a spraybooth into my basement,  think I might be putting up a shed instead.

That will be an important thing as on "Fate" I used the spray pd.  It worked fantastically well.  It's  big drawback is it's price.  I was able to do with one can of spray only about a third of the coverage the brush on would do.
So it will be a thing to do to get a solvent and mixing ratio for running it through a spraygun.
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Falkrix » Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:46 pm

Yeah, I can make just about any kind of prosthetic out there, with the exception of anything requiring an internal framework, if only because I've never learned how to weld. Which is why PD was such a natural choice when I heard about it.

I know that they recommend thinning the PD 10-20% (so either 1:9 or 1:4 ratio) for painting, so I would guess you would need to thin at LEAST 1:1 for spraying. Although I could be completely wrong, this is just a guess based on what I know about paints and latex.
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Wynar » Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:18 pm

hmmm...wonder if the folks at performix could be convinced to produce a spraygun ready product?
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Fayne Erving » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:37 pm

Wynar, I'm not kidding when I say you better keep up with your deviant page, if only to post pics of new weapons.

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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby igit » Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:29 am

hey Wynar on the axe what is the round foam that your useing for the pommel and such it looks nice and strong
its all most time just pick a foe
they say lay on and off you go quick as hell never slow
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he falls to your feet thus what happens when your to slow!!!
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Disirregardlessly hivemind » Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:04 am

It's not round foam, it's EVAlite that's been wrapped around and sanded down.
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Wynar » Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:50 pm

[quote=&quot;hivemind&quot;]
It's not round foam, it's EVAlite that's been wrapped around and sanded down.
[/quote]

true dat
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Fayne Erving » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:59 pm

You ever gonna post a tutorial on how to make such neat looking pommels? I figured out how to do the cone and the circle shape pretty easy, but the perfect ball is giving me some hangup
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby ishmael » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:40 pm

Man,...I love spraying PD...Wynar it works really well...used evazote foam for a larp weapon im making...its so easy to work with and it works well with PD..got 2 swords almost done..post it soon..i will admit making a larp sword was fun ;D...Got anything in the works?
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Methelas » Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:00 am

[quote=&quot;Wynar&quot;]
[quote=&quot;Outhro Youkker&quot;]
You are right, it would be easier to do this than make a cover for a flanged mace that would take uber-stitching to cover all cloth.
plus the one piece cover for the head of a beaded ax is hell to sew.
[/quote]

yup

[img width=756 height=504]http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs46/f/2009/187/7/e/7e85891c4d4fb2b467553c566210c885.jpg[/img]

it sure is  ;)
[/quote] how much would you charge me to purchase one of these.
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Methelas » Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:13 pm

Wynar - I would like to purchase a mace like yours. Name a price and I will think on it. Those things are amazingly beautiful and you do extremely good work, its like Dag legal Calamacil. BRILLIANT!
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Wynar » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:37 am

Well, I got me a bright shiny, well not that shiny it needs a steaming bucket of polishing, website!

http://www.wynar.com/

You can get a hold of me there!
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Drunken Bob (For Congress) » Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:03 pm

you're still a jerk, and now you are flaunting, I am envious

(Honestly, your work is spectacular, and I am still envious)
You're all Hookers!!!

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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Wynar » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:59 pm

[quote=&quot;Drunken Bob&quot;]
you're still a jerk, and now you are flaunting, I am envious

(Honestly, your work is spectacular, and I am still envious)
[/quote]

This coming from a guy that could sew form fitting covers on a bowl full of lucky charms.  Ya sell yourself too short!

You're gonna do it now, aren't you.  Lucky Charms rocks.
C'mon, you know you wanna.
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Methelas » Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:57 am

[quote=&quot;Wynar&quot;]
[quote=&quot;Drunken Bob&quot;]
you're still a jerk, and now you are flaunting, I am envious

(Honestly, your work is spectacular, and I am still envious)
[/quote]

This coming from a guy that could sew form fitting covers on a bowl full of lucky charms.  Ya sell yourself too short!

You're gonna do it now, aren't you.  Lucky Charms rocks.
C'mon, you know you wanna.
[/quote]That would be awesome 0.0
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Olren (Formerly Traugott) » Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:08 pm

maaan i cant wait till spring when i can start making some weapons again. i miss it so.
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Drunken Bob (For Congress) » Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:00 pm

[quote=&quot;Wynar&quot;]
[quote=&quot;Drunken Bob&quot;]
you're still a jerk, and now you are flaunting, I am envious

(Honestly, your work is spectacular, and I am still envious)
[/quote]

This coming from a guy that could sew form fitting covers on a bowl full of lucky charms.  Ya sell yourself too short!

You're gonna do it now, aren't you.  Lucky Charms rocks.
C'mon, you know you wanna.
[/quote]

I just put a short tutorial on shaping up there, making a gorilla paw and the like for it. let me know what you think of that sir..
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Mikhail » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:23 pm

Does plastidip give off a lot of fumes?  I wanna build a PD sword or two, but I don't want to wait until April.  Freakin' Indiana winters...
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Milo Baines » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:32 pm

i can't say yes to this strongly enough...yes, PD is fume-tatsic...i PD in the garage at my buddies house most often, and i still get light headed... ;D
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Re: Wynar's Super Mega Awesome Tutorial of Plastidip Awsomeness The Whole Story

Postby Seris » Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:12 am

[quote=&quot;Milo Baines&quot;]
i can't say yes to this strongly enough...yes, PD is fume-tatsic...i PD in the garage at my buddies house most often, and i still get light headed... ;D
[/quote]

The fumes from PD will melt your brain.  Most of Dagorhir has nothing to worry about, that's why I do it in a small room with no ventilation.  ;D

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