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101  General / Rules rules rules / Re: Foot weapons Blue\Green? Possible? Discuss. on: December 29, 2010, 12:15:14 am
DB DOES have a leg shield.... /facepalm.


All I want to know from this is this... what does the general populace of Dagorhir feel about using feet to launch weapons such as Javelins or rocks and scoring kills? Do you feel that this is a legal move and should take the hit or that it is cheexe and would ignore a shot delivered in this fashion?

Not to detract from the OP, but that one line of his post made me think of something I had asked before and was told that missle weapons MUST be launched from the hand to count.
102  Gear / Weapons & Armor / Re: FULL PD SHIELD: GHOUL'S HUNGER on: December 25, 2010, 02:04:38 am
/facepalm...

Plastidip Artisits. There is no "c" in it. One word
103  Gear / Weapons & Armor / Re: Sale on ~30 inch Polyplank Shield Blanks on: December 24, 2010, 12:17:53 am
Fitz, I will get a hold of you on FB about this but...
I will need two blanks roughly about 28" I believe. I have two techply blanks and need some foam and this is cheaper than what I paid for my old foam blanks. I got two 28"x28"x1.5"  2.2# PE blanks from Speedyfoam.com and made my old heavy shields with those.

Expect an email :P
104  Gear / Weapons & Armor / Re: FULL PD SHIELD: GHOUL'S HUNGER on: December 22, 2010, 05:58:05 am
Theres a FB group? Where the **** have I been? Damn...

Fitz, kick @$$ work.
Also, Plastidip IS NOT PLASTIC, not is it even close chemically. It is only hard if it has a hard substrate or a lot of layers. There are other factors but are minimal and I don't want to go ito right now.

Hey Milo, hit me up on FB about the PD proposal and I will let you know what I have so far.
105  Gear / Weapons & Armor / Re: PD Rohan Sword on: December 22, 2010, 05:55:07 am
I just wanted to pop in and maybe give my opinion on this matter...

First off, wanting to say that this sword looks amazing is an understatement. It looks like it could almost be a real weapon (but not too much) from a distance at that is pretty much the main goal of a good looking weapon IMO. Clean lines and the paint job help in that aspect.

As for PD... oh boy... I will keep it brief since I know my opinion on this subject matters very little to those further east who have never met me.  Plastidip is a remarkable substance as a few here have said and others have found out. Yes, PD can and will help protect the outside of a weapon from damage and wear 'n' tear, especially along the flats and hafts of weapons. BH, you should look into the tabless tab that Falkrix put up awhile back and I think Arrakis used. I tried it and from what I have seen, albeit slightly limited since I just did it, so far the first layer is still going very strong. Maybe look into that cuz I know that alone would help many foamsmiths. So maybe it CAN help protect a weapon from the inside out just as well as from the outside in. PD can increase the life of a weapon by quite a bit without making it any less safe. (An opinion that I have that is not shared by many other Dagorhirrum) I have weapons that are over a year old and see alot of heavy combat that are just as safe as the day I made them but I digress.

BH has a valid point about the "weapon durability" gauge that many people use being an inaccurate way to measure the life of a weapon, there are just too many variables from the weather, to the fighters and gear it is used against, to the fighter using it.

Oh, and there IS a PD proposal in the works but until I can talk to more people from around the country it will stay a rough draft unless people want to help...
106  General / Dagorhir Discussion and Announcements / Re: Battle Gaming The New American Sport a book by David Graham on: December 20, 2010, 11:52:27 pm
Thanks Magnus, I forgot all about that. Amazon does have sample to look at.

Also, Istvan pretty much got it right. this isn't aimed at vets, it's not even really aimed directly at newbs even though it CAN help a newb in the middle of nowhere, it is more aimed towards the people who haven't fought but KNOW of fighting and may just want to learn more.
To comment on Alric's concern, I can understand that a bit but the charts are just the basics in each game set up like a matrix. Light boffer weapons are allowed in game A, sort of in Game B and D and disallowed in SCA combat, this target zone equals this hit location in this game and this in another, and so on.  Now, some of those rules may change, but over the last few years I have been playing the things touched upon here are the staples and that is pretty much all he was trying to get across. It isn't the end all be all but it is a good read... Now for me to finish it...
107  General / Dagorhir Discussion and Announcements / Re: Battle pictures on: December 20, 2010, 11:46:00 pm
Thanks Djemps. The shoes and socks do throw it off a bit but not enough to ruin it all.

I don't have the problem of normal shoes anymore since I have mah sexay Tabi and Kyahan. Helps keep the hakama from tripping my dumbass AND looks pretty damn cool if you don't mind the pseudo ninja look....

What? I am supposed to be an Oni and the two toed boots help that :P
108  Events / Event-Related Announcements / Re: Gates of Summer 8 on: December 20, 2010, 08:34:04 am
Hmmmm, I am still in the air about this one but I KNOW there will be peeps heading out with room to spare so I will start passing the word around early. I am sure things wont be finalized until right before but getting the word out early is never a bad thing.

Oh, and here's to The Man finally showing me some courtesy eh? There's too many friends that need a good whuppin' :D
109  General / Dagorhir Discussion and Announcements / Re: Battle pictures on: December 20, 2010, 08:21:33 am

While it isn't a mass battle pic, it IS a good battlepic of two well garbed fighters. (except for my shoes :P least I ain't wearing white socks)
110  General / Rules rules rules / Re: Shield Bashing Opponents w/o Shields on: December 20, 2010, 07:52:03 am
My post was really that ugly? Enough to warrant needing slack given to me and removing the entirety of it? I thought I was being rather nice and using just enough sarcasm with accusative undertones but I guess not.

I wasn't trying to argue with anyone, merely point out some rather contradictory and hypocritical points.

I was really that close to getting the ban hammer? Only just now? Huh...
111  Fighting / General Fighting Discussion / Re: Who would you fight? on: December 18, 2010, 06:20:39 am
Mister Rodgers (circa '87)

I heard he was a highly decorated killing machine for the military, SEALS or Green Beret or something... Epic Frothgar, ****ing EPIC. I always had a funny feeling he was a dangerous man, just couldn't tell if it was pedo dangerous or not :P

Yeah, BH has a good one there. I want to fight FB with reds, I have a feeling that may just end up being a squire task for me and if not I will request it :P
112  General / Rules rules rules / Re: Who actually reads the MoA? on: December 18, 2010, 06:13:14 am
So back on track.... sort of.

I voted for #4 but I do feel that I could be tested on the rules and get at least 98% of them right as long as you don't expect the rule number as well :P 

On a side note even making someone know the rules for a unit test (whether to rank up or get into the unit) doesn't mean the person actually knows the rules. The AoM requires a fairly good knowledge of the rules to rank up but even still I have been shocked when someone told me that bracers cannot be armor because they don't cover 2/3 of the arm... um, maybe read the rules again because that rule was gone awhile ago and replaced with 5.1.2 - Armor protects only the area it covers: e.g., one hit from a blue weapon to an unarmored elbow results in the loss of that arm, even if the rest of the arm is armored.

Unfortunately this relies on someones willingness to read and learn the rules and as much as I hate agreeing with Hanzo he is right when it comes to the general lack of willingness to do even this basic thing. I almost said something about intelligence there but decided not to be too snarky >.<
113  Gear / Weapons & Armor / Re: General foam questions on: December 18, 2010, 03:46:37 am
Hmmmm, I may just have to pick some brains after reading this...

Now if only I can find some local places to get foam that aren't douchebags about what I need it for...
114  General / Dagorhir Discussion and Announcements / Re: Battle Gaming The New American Sport a book by David Graham on: December 18, 2010, 03:42:56 am
From what I have seen Magnus, yes that is a negatory good buddy. I have yet to look through it all, but the photos are by Crynolyn and Oni so unless they have popped off some pics of you I don't know how likely it is to be in it.
I know more photos of the "national" organization would be more beneficial but the book gets it point across with what it has.

Then again, you COULD just get a big color photo of yourself and glue it to the front lol

"Hey look, I'm on a book cover" :P
115  General / Dagorhir Discussion and Announcements / Re: Battle Gaming The New American Sport a book by David Graham on: December 17, 2010, 11:58:48 pm
Well, I must say from looking the book over it really does have some good points in it. The tables in the back concerning what is allowed in what games and the small rules differences are SOOOO helpful. For someone just getting into the game and has multiple games around them or just for someone who X-games it would be a nice thing to have.
I have yet to look through the whole thing and read it all but so far I am not dissapointed, but that being said I will read it and give it an unbiased review.

I think people should at least give the book a chance and maybe look it through if you have the time, and even if it doesn't have photos of you in it you may just enjoy it. Besides, I hate all but like one photo of me in it :P
116  General / Dagorhir Discussion and Announcements / Re: Board Games on: December 17, 2010, 12:19:35 am
The copies of Hero quest are all complete except for one of the og games was the one I got when I was 9 and was missing the dice so I bought one of ebay.... cost me $30. I don't know if I could ever part with them, I still play it with my girlfirends kids who LOVE it and the fact that trying to find complete versions of the expansions that aren't all torn up is damn near impossible...
If only I could find an Elf, Barbarian, or Ogre Kingdoms expansion for less then $100 I would be happy.

Damnit Magnus, you know what this means right? Either a night at Rag or if I can make it up to your neck of the woods I WILL hold you to a game night, between us we have some rare and kick ass games lol Heavily booze influenced I might add ;)
117  General / Dagorhir Discussion and Announcements / Re: Dagorhir to you on: December 16, 2010, 05:31:52 am
I am sure Motorek and I concede that to you, but for those of us that have not had that... opertunity, this is about as close as most will get to that "feeling".

I fall into the whole, adreneline pumping trying to kill you group. I know that is contradictory like Motorek says but meh
118  General / Dagorhir Discussion and Announcements / Re: Board Games on: December 16, 2010, 05:28:40 am
Oh boy... here goes...
Axis and Allies
Legions of Steel
Hero Quest (2 copies even plus Keller's Keep and Return of the Witch Lord expansions :P)
Dungeon Quest
Dragon Quest
Advanced Dungeons and Dragons (the board game that comes with little paper tiles for pieces)
The Dark Tower
Warhammer 40k
Warhammer Fantasy Battles
Weapons and Warriors (about 5 sets including 2 castles)
Official Jurassic Park Board game (circa '93 or so?)

Hmm, that's all I can remember atm. Last night while reading that little bit in the other thread about games I went and started looking in the closet at all my old games. Some are hand me downs from my grandparents (the ones that are as old or older than I) and most have been around since I was a snot nosed punk. Funny, the only ones I still ever play are Warhammer 40k and WFB but I still enjoy painting all the old mini's from the other games.
119  General / Rules rules rules / Re: Who actually reads the MoA? on: December 16, 2010, 02:13:36 am
It really isn't hard to get the pages of the rules printed out, three hole punched, and put into sleeves in a three ring binder. That way when a new rule comes out, is changed, or the whole thing is (sigh) redone it is fairly easy to replace the old version with the newer one. I have 1 full color copy including the handbook and two black and white copies of just the rules that go to every practice. Hell the three of them cost me less then $40 in total. I think most, if not all realms should always have a copy at hand on the field. I am glad I am not the only one that feels this way.

Also, I whole heartedly agree with the confusion that stems from someone not having a full grasp of the rules teaching a new person what's what and then having the new person follow THOSE rules verbatim, only to get into trouble because what they were taught was wrong.
120  General / Rules rules rules / Re: Who actually reads the MoA? on: December 15, 2010, 07:38:46 am
I think I have a pretty solid grasp of the rules as they are written, I can spout off just about any of the rules when asked about them. I also make sure that we have a current and up to date copy of the rules AND handbook at every practice.

I agree with Whisper that there are more than a few vets with a willful ignorance of the rules, I deal with it almost every practice. Now while I can see the whole "cross gaming" theory I would blame it more upon the fact that our rules are unclear, muddled, and interpreted in a few different ways as well as the fact that there is a trend to try to make sure our rules clearly different from the "evil twin" game. 80% of the fighters in my realm are strictly Dagorhir fighters and yet even all of them seem to disagree on certain rules, interpret the rules differently, and bicker about meanings so the cross gaming theory does have holes in it.
121  General / Dagorhir Discussion and Announcements / Re: What's on your iPod? on: December 15, 2010, 02:22:24 am
Meh, here goes...
#1. Boombox - The Lonely Island
#2. Song of Words - GWAR
#3. Jurass Finish First - Jurassic 5
#4. Fire Dogs - Ren and Stimpy Soundtrack
#5. Love Reign Down - Black Label Society

I was actually surprised that no Mastadon or Rammstein popped up... or more GWAR for that matter :P
122  General / Rules rules rules / Re: Leather vs Metal armor rules on: December 09, 2010, 05:39:09 am
Come on now Magnus, it was helpful... for like 5 posts.... but was still helpful... sort of :P

Jari, it was a pretty low brow post by Lothar about hog tying Hanzo and breaking his fingers and beating him... He deleted it though so I guess now orries  ::) I am not defending anyone, I just feel crap like that doesn't belong here, maybe I should have quoted it...
Not that I truely care, but it was soo out of line that even I had to say something... and that IS saying something lol

That samurai IS boss... I AM THA HOT N READY WARRIOR!!!
123  General / Rules rules rules / Re: Leather vs Metal armor rules on: December 09, 2010, 03:05:12 am
Wow... oh how a thread can devolve so fast.

Magnus and Hanzo had me thouroughly entertained last night to say the least.

This thread WAS helpful at a point... then some @$$hats came along, spouted their self supported and more than a little false comments, and now we have this... Plus a REALLY personal attack about breaking fingers and what not which was made clear it wasn't a joke... Seems the mods are on vacation or just don't care. ( I think it's number 2 ;) )

I hope Hanzo stabs a bitch :P and Korac, you da man lol
124  General / Rules rules rules / Re: Leather vs Metal armor rules on: December 07, 2010, 10:49:48 pm
Requiring leather to be "hardened" is more then you realise and will outlaw a good portion of the now currently passing armors out there, and they pass well within the current rules without cheesing. I also believe that requiring no more then 2 layers to meet the min thickness isn't so much of a long stretch and would prevent any "thin leather" armors which everyone seems to complain about, but yet no one sees often enough to complain about as much as ninja brig...

Yes, this isn't as big of an issue as people make it out to be but it seems that the biggest concern over leather is the thickness being too little so let's just take that argument away with a rule requiring no more then 2 layers so we can move on to the real meat of the argument... which is ninja brig style armor.

Also Jack, you really drive my point home in your own way. I find it entirely too amusing that people want "fake" armor that we hit each other with "fake" weapons to be just as heavy and protective as a real qorld counterpart even though we DO NOT need that protection in order to SURVIVE, which was the main reason there WAS armor.
If we require ACTUAL armor, then why stop there when we can then move to realistic weighted foam weapons, and then on to just using heavy, dulled, sword blanks against our new armor... at that point we might as well be playing another game that already requires that.
That kind of thinking and logic is just over kill for our game.
125  General / Dagorhir Discussion and Announcements / Re: favorite book(s) on: December 07, 2010, 12:41:38 am
I will second Red Planet, it was one of the bigger influences of my childhood, anything by Heinlein actually :P

Also, just finished Nemesis, the 13th book of the Horus Heresy series and now on to read the 14th tonight. Seems that 80% of my reads lately have been GW related in one way or another... Sad, I know.
126  General / Dagorhir Discussion and Announcements / Re: what are you working on like RIGHT NOW on: December 07, 2010, 12:36:35 am
Askarus, Eventually I just may need to pay you for a job... You really do some very impressive work.
127  General / Dagorhir Discussion and Announcements / Re: what are you working on like RIGHT NOW on: December 06, 2010, 11:12:30 pm
Gonna basecoat mah mini's tonight and start on paintin' some orks.
When that is done, finish the gauntlets that myself and Roach need so that we can stop breaking our hands...
128  General / Dagorhir Discussion and Announcements / Re: Stupid things you used to believe about dagorhir. on: December 06, 2010, 11:08:52 pm
44. Winter should not stop practices. (Turns out, it does.)

Not everywhere does practice stop because of snow/cold. We are still going fairly strong, granted I have been sick for the last month almost and haven't made it out to practice in like 3 weeks...


As for me... I always thought that after I got my gear done that would be it for working on weapons and armor and I would be satisfied with what I have.... then I learned that I will never be satisfied and continue to make more and more weapons and armor...
129  General / Rules rules rules / Re: Leather vs Metal armor rules on: December 03, 2010, 11:33:02 pm
I agree on the tightening of the armor rules but to follow the route of armor should actually be PROTECTIVE of a real world attack to count would outlaw all leather since it can only be made to protect with a lot of work and there are no sources for it being in wide spread use as "real armor"

I hate all the crap armor just as much as the next guy but we use imitation weapons on imitation shields and hit imitation armor to cause simulated death... does the armor REALLY need to protect from a real world weapon if it only supposed to imitate it?

I say it should imitate the real thing as much as possible though so don't get me wrong but just realise the point I am trying to make :D
130  General / Rules rules rules / Re: Grabbing apponents haft while wearing armor. on: December 03, 2010, 11:26:33 pm
I see what you mean BH, and it isn't just in this thread. More then once I have seen armored fighters reach up and grab peoples handles before they can swing and then a couple people from the sidelines start screaming, "YOU CAN'T GRAPPLE WHILE IN ARMOR!" and a huge belicose grumblefest starts up. Might I add that the people screaming from the sidelines were all multi year vets, so it isn't just newbs that need the clarification.
Now in this situation slight contact can be made on the hands but that is even less then a couple 13 year olds on a date, does that facilitate the initiation or is a little rub ok? Does my skin brushing yours on your handle make you think I am trying to initiate a grapple or that I am just trying to prevent you from using your weapon on me and I was faster at the grab then you were at the swing?... Hypothetical of course  ;)
131  Gear / Weapons & Armor / Re: Lack of blue foam! on: November 30, 2010, 11:07:15 pm
Yeah, all of my attempts at a sandwich sword have met with horrible failures. Well, at least in my eyes they were failures.

132  General / Rules rules rules / Re: New judging hit rule 3.4.1 effective june 25th 2010 on: November 30, 2010, 11:00:19 pm
I thought that this didn't do into effect until Rag of next year? I know some groups change it up early for various reasons but isn't the title a bit "misinforming"?

Regardless I am happy to see this go into effect... as long as I don't see more people cheating and using this as an excuse :P
133  Gear / Weapons & Armor / Re: Lack of blue foam! on: November 30, 2010, 12:21:58 am
I used two layers of blue under some EVA and it tore like a cheap prom dress on the first practice out. I actually had more luck with a blue-EVA-blue build that felt "soft" from day one but was always firm enough to pass.
Since the sword we did that to doesn't come out anymore I really need to try that again on one of my own.

Will have to try the 4# box with some 2# over it since others seem to have good luck with it. Question though, is that with an up and over method or the sandwhich method?
134  Gear / Weapons & Armor / Re: Weaponcrafting emotions on: November 30, 2010, 12:16:43 am
I tend to hit a very strong Zen mode when I am working on my Dag gear, my models, or anything that really sets my artistic mood alight. Before I know it, I am finished with my project and am wondering aloud to others where all the time went and what the hell just happened...
Tends to happen at work as well but it's more of a numbing then a zen mode, ya know?

Looks like you have found a pathway to inner peace ;)
135  Gear / Weapons & Armor / Re: Shield Design on: November 19, 2010, 11:46:26 pm
I want to see this shield... The BH/Jari shield AND the OP's one.

On a side note, how would Dino's be considered "illegal"? I am sure massive bones were found long before our recorded history says we found em and someone with half a mind of creativity could work it out. Besides, that would be cool as hell to have skins that look like Dino's (yes, yes I know we don't know what they looked like), gear/armor that was patterned with scales and what not.

Sorry, my little kid fascinated with Dinosaurs is showing :P
136  Gear / Weapons & Armor / Re: My personal problem with plastidip on: November 19, 2010, 11:36:57 pm
I have been toying around with "rectangle" pommels and so far the harder base and softer "pointy bits" works fairly well but over time it gets kinda... crushed. I pommel fight from time to time so that is where the crushing comes from I think but so far it seems like a solid idea and I know there are compotent smiths out there who can pull it off AND make em look purdy.

As for the wrinkled look of PD'ed foam after a time... it happens. The haft on my glaive, which just died after a year and a half, was just a "normal" haft with a piece of fun foam wrapped around it and PD'ed pretty well stood up marvelously to the abuse we put it through and wrinkled very little (it tore through the PD, paint, and foam because of "armor bites" moreso than it wrinkled) but some of the other designs wrinkeled more. The ones that were either EVA directly under the PD or a layer of EVA under blue that was PD'ed seemed to wrinkle more but with only 3 weapons that test really isn't substantial enough IMO. I believe it comes down to what's under the PD'ed layer but that is currently speculation.
Maybe try a more solid base? Then try a softer foam or fun foam over it? I know others suggested the same but I think this would help you the best with your fighting abilities and what not.
137  Gear / Weapons & Armor / Re: pommel ideas on: November 19, 2010, 12:06:04 am
Those balls aren't large enough.
:-\ ..... Somebody needs to swoop down and snag this for their signature.

aaaaaaaand done :P
138  Gear / Weapons & Armor / Re: Getting into Archery on: November 19, 2010, 12:04:36 am
Keeping it strung a bit before you get it tested helps. Despite what others have found, I got a longer string for my bow and it pulled at 35# about 80% of the time just after being strung and about 95% after sitting for a bit after being strung. This apparently is not always the case with people. Longer strings CAN cause issues with your equipment, more misfires, unstringing itself after a misfire, and other issues can and most often does happen.
I say get yourself a flemish string, maybe even one for a slightly smaller bow. You would have to take this to an archery shop to do it though, get it measured and what not. Plus comes the fun of explaining WHY you need it to pull weaker, the people who work at those shops love hearing about how us crazy folks shoot arrows with foam heads at each others faces at 10 yards :P
139  General / Rules rules rules / Re: Clarification on "One Swing, One Hit" on: November 17, 2010, 12:09:16 am
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3.4.1  A hit from a hand-held weapon counts when the weapon’s striking surface hits with sufficient force.  Clarification: taps, grazing, and glancing shots do not count as sufficient force.
Gonna go ahead and agree with what everyone else said. If your weapon hits three kittens and a puppy but still hits me with the force required in da rules, I take it.

Awwww, poor cannine lol
140  General / Rules rules rules / Re: Clarification on Projectile Deflections on: November 17, 2010, 12:08:08 am
As for the rock thing ok, but I would not take the Javelin ruling above as legit until a few more people chim in. Not only does that not fit the rules, it is just a silly argument for it. Even if the haft touches something it is dead? That seems more like something that was given to arrows to simulate the speed and strength and now added to javelins.... for what reason I cannot see logically.

Rocks dying on contact with ANYTHING defeats half of it's strength in combat. I mean really, it can ONLY damamge someones head, and only once at that? Talk about a weapon people would be trying to get rid of with that mentality. Also, aren't rocks the one weapon that doesn't fit into the "sufficient force" catagory, I mean we don't require people to blast each other in the face with them right?

Also, I have seen real rocks hit multiple objects and still transfer enough force to break things so that hiffing and puffing is even more silly opinion, imo ;) Chaulk it up to a VERY delinquent childhood
141  General / Rules rules rules / Re: Clarification on "One Swing, One Hit" on: November 16, 2010, 11:51:53 pm
As far as I know the "One swing, One hit" is something upheld in another game but in ours we follow the addage that even if your weapon lands with sufficient force in multiple hit zones, such as a limb and torso or two limbs, you take the damamge to all zones that have been hit.
This has come up before I believe and that was the answer given to myself.

Take this as ever you will, this is just what I have been told and may or may not be correct.
142  General / Rules rules rules / Re: Clarification on Projectile Deflections on: November 16, 2010, 10:28:59 pm
Hmmm, this brings new things to light for me. I always was under the assupmtion that rocks were "live" untill they touched the ground and in that note could kill multiple people. You attempted to block the rock and yet it still makes it passed and hits you, ya know?
But according to this, the rock is "dead" as soon as it touches something whether that be a scoring hit (off someones face) or someones shield/helm. Does that mean a half attempted block to a rock would render it dead as long as it hit the shield before someone's face? Does that make it illegle to deflect/block a rock with a weapon? What about people kicking rocks or javelins at people and scoring hits? (this does happen so I do not want to hear about it being immpossible)

Yes, this Is a grey area but since you guys brought it up I figure I would at least being in some things to think about.
143  General / Rules rules rules / Re: Direction of Dag. on: November 11, 2010, 12:29:07 am
The nearest realm to us is a small Bel realm an hour south or a smaller Bel realm 4 hours north. The distance between realms is much larger out here. They have no problems (for the most part) garbing for events, just not practices. Even the big ones.
It isn't everyone either, just a good number of our vets. It isn't so much a problem as a headache.
Wasn't trying to do anything but play devil's advocate and get people to see a different perspective.
Least I got good garb, mah boots iz SEXAY!! :P
144  Events / Event-Related Announcements / Re: Gates of Summer 8 on: November 11, 2010, 12:19:11 am
502 miles eh? It's more then that for us westerners and we make it out. Jari's logic holds a lot of water so for those who say that it's a long drive, there is ALWAYS someone who took longer/had to travel further then you to get there. If they can make it...
145  General / Rules rules rules / Re: Direction of Dag. on: November 11, 2010, 12:16:30 am
Oh and I will add we DO have loaner garb... a whole container full of enough garb to outfit at least 9 people. No one wants to wear it, regardless of it being cleaned after every practice it gets (rarely) used. I dunno, like I said some people like being the guy who doesn't follow the rules, I guess it's cool
146  General / Rules rules rules / Re: Direction of Dag. on: November 11, 2010, 12:11:40 am
Well, out here we unfortunately have quite a few things for people to do other than Dag. It is the biggest thing we have to work against when getting new fighters. By telling people they cannot fight, we drive them away, into other games, or just away from it entirely.
I really cannot stress let alone explain the MASS amount of extra curicular activies that are available to people out here that we have to compete with, and no amount of garbing up will help it as much as I would like it to. I agree that bad habits are hard to break, especially when it comes to people who do it just to be the guy who goes against the grain.
I try to set the standard and ALWAYS attend practice in garb, yet getting that to catch on with others just doesn't happen. It was that way when I started, and hasn't really improved or digressed. Guess that's ONE good thing. Meh... back to beatin' on spuds in mah pimpin garb and gear I guess :P
147  General / Rules rules rules / Re: Direction of Dag. on: November 10, 2010, 11:13:41 pm
I really do agree with everyone that we really DO need to enforce the exsisting rules that we have involving garb. It DOES make our game look better.
 Then again... I agree with Alric's satement WAAAY up top about not wanting to be "that guy" or ruining someones day just because of the ****ty garb they have or even lack thereof.
For example, at our practices of 30 people on average we have MAYBE 3 or 4 people in "good garb", about 8-14 or so in really half assed, poorly attempted garb, and then the rest in street clothes. You would think that the few in good garb and "barely decent" garb would be the long term vets... but that is simply not the case. Out of those 11-18 people only 6-8 are vets. I know for a fact that the vets in spud "streets" HAVE garb but are just too damn lazy to wear it, or think it's cool to be the non conforming guy. The new fighters are the ones who really DO try, then see the lame attempts by the "vets" and progress into ****acular garb.
We have a once a month GARB REQUIRED battle, and have had it that way since I started years ago but yet very few actually show up in garb. I have tried to tell people that they can only fight using a single blue or not at all if they don't garb up and I get extreme flak for it, called names, and then told that they would just rather go home and fight in their back yard. How does that help our turnouts? If 30 people show up and only 5 are in garb, do I tell the other 25 that they can't fight? Up their standards? Yeah I can, but will they listen? You CANNOT force someone to do something they don't want to do, as much as I would like to get them to at least wear the minimum requirements. I try leading by example, and I have less then realist garb. Others do as well but when someone just wants to be here to fight how do I get them to do something they don't want to? We actually have had entire groups of 15+ people leave practice and go elsewhere just to fight because we gave them flak for not being garbed, and that wasn't even telling them they couldn;'t fight. There will always be those types that feel they HAVE to go against ANY type of authority whether it be police, theachers, or even some punk guy who runs a foam fighting practice.
I totally agree with you guys here in that we would get more peeps if we "upped our game" but how do we do that without forcing people to do what they don't want to or excluding people who already fight?
I guess what I am saying is, you can't force a horse to drink booze if he don't want to...
148  Gear / Weapons & Armor / Re: Mordor's crossbow(s) on: November 09, 2010, 10:01:17 pm
Huh, just noticed this...
So is your name Mordor because I know for a fact that no one here in the realm of Mordor has anything remotely close to that.
Not trying to be a dick just asking because since I am the Admin of the realm this caught my eye and if someone is planning on bringing them out to a practice expect them to be tested fairly but thouroughly.
149  Gear / Weapons & Armor / Re: I got new armor today! Uruk-Hai Style on: November 03, 2010, 11:23:08 pm
They aren't heavy at all, not very movement limiting either. Needs some adjusting though to fit better. Smells strongly of vinegar though... :P
150  Gear / Weapons & Armor / Re: My leather is dyed, now what? on: November 02, 2010, 09:48:02 pm
Slather some ECO flo (or is it Eco Shine?) all over and let it pool up and soak in. Then repeat a few more times till it takes forever for it to soak up. Stuff makes your leather harder and waterproof.

Saligia would know the exact name of what I am referring to, I just can't remember the name while I am at work :P
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