Topic: Those Romans might be more useful than I thought... (Read 833 times)

Roggan · « **on:** March 11, 2008, 09:15:00 pm »

I would just like to say Dagorhir does equal higher test scores. And here's the story...
So today I took the National Latin Exam for Latin 2. It was a fairly easy test, a few things on future participles, some about the obscure uses of the Ablative case such as Absolutes and Cause. There was also a few questions concerning some of Roman culture, such as the Arbiter Bidendi, Pax Romana, SPQR and the like.
The interesting thing was, there was a question about the Pontifex Maximus. We had never discussed in class what a Pontifex Maximus was, so I normally would have been stumped. But, thanks to Gurrundi, I recalled him talking about his position as the Pontifex and I immediately related it to religious activities as Gurrundi is known to control the weather.
My Latin teacher confirmed after the test that I was correct in choosing my answer.
So here's my thanks to Gurrundi, Pontifex Maximus.
Ave Rome!
(Edit for Spellings)

[ March 11, 2008: Message edited by: Roggan ]

Whisper Moonson · « **Reply #1 on:** March 11, 2008, 10:47:00 pm »

Coolness! All I can say to that is:

Carpe cerevisi!

Termini nosco donec termini transeo.

and, most importantly,

Quid quid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

Eddard Greyjoy · « **Reply #2 on:** March 11, 2008, 10:54:00 pm »

Reg: All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
Attendee: Brought peace?
Reg: Oh, peace - shut up!
Reg: There is not one of us who would not gladly suffer death to rid this country of the Romans once and for all.
Dissenter: Uh, well, one.
Reg: Oh, yeah, yeah, there's one. But otherwise, we're solid.

[ March 11, 2008: Message edited by: Mogcat, Corrupted adventurer ]

Seosamh MacSeafra · « **Reply #3 on:** March 11, 2008, 11:54:00 pm »

how odd, im in latin II and i havent heard of half those things yet

Ravus · « **Reply #4 on:** March 12, 2008, 12:02:00 am »

Oooh, i gotta take that for Latin III tomarrow -_-. but hey it gets me outta chem.... wait... i just finished my chem homework... *facepalm*.

I love the Mythology section on those, saves me (and gets me at a minimum the Cum Laude award which gets me out of a few classes later in the year for an 'award ceremony')

Nieros · « **Reply #5 on:** March 12, 2008, 12:15:00 am »

Living Latin ftw, something about this... trasnverbilzation thats taught as the standard in most courses and has been for ages annoys me.

(for those of you out of the loop, most Latin courses teach people how to read Latin, translate and directly speak it in English. Living Latin is a movement to teach Latin as a language like any other foreign language is taught, BY SPEAKING IT)

Little John · « **Reply #6 on:** March 12, 2008, 11:47:00 am »

this is alittle off topic, I speak bits of 14 languages, I cant even speak english all that well, as any of my friends can atest to. Well I guess I would like to say I am so really jealous of all of you!!!!!!!!!!!! , yet I still love you guys, keep the language of our fathers alive!

Athron · « **Reply #7 on:** March 12, 2008, 12:01:00 pm »

Parlev vous francez?

What's that Latin for?

Flittie Smeddum · « **Reply #8 on:** March 12, 2008, 01:00:00 pm »

Nieros, "Living Latin" sounds cool. Are you trying to speak ancient Latin or medieval Latin? I was under the impression that we don't know much about the pronunciation of Latin in Roman times.

Warthog · « **Reply #9 on:** March 12, 2008, 02:44:00 pm »

Taking two years of Latin at private school helped me learn French, Spanish, and strongly helped me pass My National Exam for my medical career.

Roughly up to 65% of all words in English come from Latin. Roughly up to 35% come from Greek ... Or something like that.

Yeah Rome! Ave Rome! Ave Grrundi ... and his dancing at Badon Hill 2007. Where is that Video of him dancing on YouTube, his white outfit, and stars sunglasses?

Kurai · « **Reply #10 on:** March 12, 2008, 02:59:00 pm »

Ha, I had to take that test as well on monday. Of course, I was only taking the Latin 1 test, so it was probably easier than yours. But I do remember the SPQR thing from a flag of the Romans...at least I think it was them at Rag, and then because of that oh so wholesome tradition of crucifixions, I was able to answer a couple of questions concerning details on that! Thanks to the Romans for being so darn helpful!

Graymael · « **Reply #11 on:** March 13, 2008, 03:12:00 am »

SPGR? I thought it said RSVP!

Alric · « **Reply #12 on:** March 13, 2008, 03:32:00 am »

quote:
Originally posted by Athron of Eryndor:
Parlev vous francez?

What's that Latin for?

Smack me - the empire fell, and I forgot how to pronounce my consonants.

Warthog · « **Reply #13 on:** March 13, 2008, 03:32:00 am »

Let's watch Grrundi Dance !!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=a8n4cAAmNB8

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Briar Rose · « **Reply #14 on:** March 13, 2008, 03:52:00 am »

Ave Gurrundi.

I took one semester. Halfway through, the prof had a heart attack. Took them three weeks to get another teacher. We went from Veni, Vidi, Vici to Weni, Widi, Wici. I signed up for Elementary Spanish I the next semester.

Ake · « **Reply #15 on:** March 13, 2008, 03:55:00 am »

nice!

Ravus · « **Reply #16 on:** March 12, 2008, 07:02:00 pm »

Ahh, but do you mean wici as in WeeChee, or Wiki.

I hate pronunciation because my teacher can't make up her mind. I feel like a complete nerd for having an issue with it but if somethign has a long A... you should pronounce it with a long A! (makes discerning spoken feminine accusative from feminine ablative rather obnoxious.)

Necavi D. Omnes · « **Reply #17 on:** March 12, 2008, 07:13:00 pm »

At first I was against turning 'v's to 'w's, but after getting failed on my first oral exam I quickly changed my tune. It's weird for me to practice with a classmate and hear them pronouce the 'v', or a soft 'c'. It completely throws me off, and I panic for a while afterwards.

The only exception I make for that is Necavi, because Necawee just sounds weird...
Do I contradict myself?
I sure do.

Alric · « **Reply #18 on:** March 12, 2008, 07:18:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Ravus:
Ahh, but do you mean wici as in WeeChee, or Wiki.

I hate pronunciation because my teacher can't make up her mind. I feel like a complete nerd for having an issue with it but if somethign has a long A... you should pronounce it with a long A! (makes discerning spoken feminine accusative from feminine ablative rather obnoxious.)

Weekee or Veechee... Weechee is just confused.

Briar Rose · « **Reply #19 on:** March 12, 2008, 07:26:00 pm »

Weekee.

I should have taken the prof's heart attack as an omen, though.

Roggan · « **Reply #20 on:** April 10, 2008, 11:51:00 pm »

Bump for great justice!
My school received the test scores back today and I must say my teacher was quite impressed with the overall test scores. (He is the only Latin teacher in my highschool, which is the largest in the county.)
Out of 12 students that took the exam, 8 of them received awards, including myself.
I received the maxima cum laude award, which means with the greatest praise and is just under the highest award possible (suma cum laude I think).
Out of 40, I had a 35. Pretty good I'd say.
Oddly enough, my teacher decided to look at the top 3 questions which most people got wrong and the question about the Pontifex Maximus was among those three. Once again, Ave Rome!
-Roggan

Alric · « **Reply #21 on:** April 11, 2008, 02:25:00 am »

quote:
Originally posted by Roggan:
maxima cum laude

Now, that's why I think the split infinitive should be allowed in English. If the Romans could mess with the order of a prepositional phrase like that, putting the preposition in the middle, I should be allowed to rightly split my infinitives!

Malpan · « **Reply #22 on:** April 11, 2008, 02:52:00 am »

quote:
Originally posted by Alric of Drentha:
I should be allowed to rightly split my infinitives!

You are. Almost everyone has been in agreement for a while now that there is no sane reason to even consider not allowing the split infinitive as a construction.

Alric · « **Reply #23 on:** April 11, 2008, 03:05:00 am »

Tell that to my professor who circled four of them in the 7 page paper I just got back this afternoon...

Malpan · « **Reply #24 on:** April 11, 2008, 03:32:00 am »

If we were allowed to post private contact information, I would ask for his email.

Really though, split infinitives appear in CORRECT answers on the ACT and SAT, so teaching that they are some how incorrect (for no good reason, ask anyone how is anti-split-infinitive why you shouldn't split it, it's fun!) is actually bad for high-school students. A college professor clinging to such and out-dated theory is really sad.

CharlesDeClermont · « **Reply #25 on:** April 11, 2008, 03:43:00 am »

quote:
Originally posted by Roggan:
Bump for great justice!
My school received the test scores back today and I must say my teacher was quite impressed with the overall test scores. (He is the only Latin teacher in my highschool, which is the largest in the county.)
Out of 12 students that took the exam, 8 of them received awards, including myself.
I received the maxima cum laude award, which means with the greatest praise and is just under the highest award possible (suma cum laude I think).
Out of 40, I had a 35. Pretty good I'd say.
Oddly enough, my teacher decided to look at the top 3 questions which most people got wrong and the question about the Pontifex Maximus was among those three. Once again, Ave Rome!
-Roggan

Well, I must say CONGRATS!
Keep up the work with all them dirivitives, declentions and cases! Don't give up! I graduated high school with 4 years of Latin and MISS IT SO! But you will be scared how much you will learn!

(as you learned here)

Btw- when you get to Catullus- Beware! His poems are lovely, his subjects...hehehehe. you will see.

Roggan · « **Reply #26 on:** April 11, 2008, 06:22:00 pm »

Thanks everybody for your kind words.
Alric - Infinitives? Since when is any of those words even close to being an infinitive? I see an adjective, then a preposition, then the noun all in the ablative case.
*scratches head*

Shrike · « **Reply #27 on:** April 11, 2008, 07:02:00 pm »

What's this then? 'ROMANES EUNT DOMUS.' People called Romanes, they go the
house?

(I learned all I need to know about Latin in 'Life of Brian.')

Alric · « **Reply #28 on:** April 11, 2008, 07:32:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Roggan:
Since when is any of those words even close to being an infinitive? I see an adjective, then a preposition, then the noun all in the ablative case.

Oh, no infinitives there - I was just highlighting a parallel construction between the Latin prepositional phrase that can nest the preposition between the adjective and the noun and the English split infinitive. I think the fact that Latin can do cool stuff like that with the ablative is reason enough for English to do a similar split with our two-part infinitives.

Sorry to go all grammar-geek on your post.

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