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Friendly Fire?
« on: July 23, 2009, 09:17:19 pm »
Can you be killed, gimped, maimed, etc. by your own teamates?
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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2009, 09:25:16 pm »
I'm pretty sure you can, BH talks about it happening to his demons at Rag, and I've heard mention of it before
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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2009, 09:38:51 pm »
A hit is a hit is a hit.

So.. yes of course.
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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2009, 10:03:16 pm »
Or yourself, many people will tell you.

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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2009, 11:05:05 pm »
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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2009, 01:49:45 am »
Can you be killed, gimped, maimed, etc. by your own teamates?

Yes.

Just can't trust anyone, these days. :-\
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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2009, 02:40:14 am »
The rules don't say who has to hit you for you to be injured or killed. If they're on your team, it's still on your honor to take your hits.
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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2009, 09:26:03 am »
I kill myself everytime I use Axis' club. I hate that thing.

Rules only state substantial force. Doesn't say who is holding the weapon.
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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2009, 10:18:31 am »
You have an odd way of spelling 'noticeable'
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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2009, 10:19:46 am »
So....

Can you kill yourself?

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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2009, 10:25:01 am »
3.4.  Weapon Damage: Weapons do varying amount of damage depending upon where they strike and whether the target area is armored.   A hit from a hand-held weapon counts when the weapon strikes solidly with substantial force.  A hit from a projectile (yellow) weapon counts when the head of the weapon merely strikes the target, stopping or being slightly deflected.
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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2009, 10:28:28 am »
Of course. Although in my case, it requires effort and ingenuity.
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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2009, 10:41:00 am »
I once javelined myself in the head.

On the up-side, I think the other guy was laughing hard enough that someone else killed him.  Not entirely sure as I was laughing pretty hard, too.
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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2009, 11:02:42 pm »
Considering "A hit is a hit is a hit," hitting yourself would usually entail that you lost a limb or died. Some groups probably don't even think about it, but it there may be some realms that greatly enforce it. Taking hits from yourself (whether accidently or on purpose) or teammates (same scenarios) would show a higher level of honesty and sportsmanship to many others, except for those who want the joy of being the ones to kill you. As for the rules, just take it at Rag, and if you desperately don't want to die by your own hand or that of a teammate, check with an event organizer at smaller events. Of course, it would be easier to just be a good sport and die a good death...
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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2009, 01:50:21 am »
Friendly fire isn't.
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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2009, 11:18:49 am »
We have been known to frequently commit suicide during a meat grinder for captains in order to make the new guys do it.
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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2009, 02:41:58 am »
We have been known to frequently commit suicide during a meat grinder for captains in order to make the new guys do it.

I really don't understand what you're trying to say...not trying to be an anus, I would just like some clarification

It sounds like you're saying you kill yourself in order to make the new guys kill themselves lol...maybe I got it twisted, I've drank several beers this evening
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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2009, 11:19:07 am »
Before we divide up into teams for various scenarios during practice we do a meat grinder to determine who will the be the captains . . . last two standing. We older, more experienced folks will often "fall upon" our own weapons or team up with someone else and simul-kill in order to leave the new guys as the last ones standing. They then duel it out for first pick.

But to not totallt derail this thread . . . when I was learning my new red, I probably legged myself a dozen times.
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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2009, 02:10:26 am »
3.4.  Weapon Damage: Weapons do varying amount of damage depending upon where they strike and whether the target area is armored.   A hit from a hand-held weapon counts when the weapon strikes solidly with [old rule]

Orrin - that's the old rule.  The newer ones (less this year's changes) are found here: http://www.digitalbonsai.com/dagrules-draft/

3.4 - Judging Hits:

hide3.4.1 - Hits from hand-held weapons count when the weapon strikes solidly with noticeable force. NOTE: what constitutes a “solid strike” is necessarily subjective and thus relies on the honor of both the attacker and the person who is struck.
3.4.2 - Hits from projectile weapons count when the head of the weapon merely strikes the target: stopping or being slightly deflected.
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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2009, 09:51:53 pm »
However, since archers are allowed to call their shots, if you accidentally hit your teammate in the back of the head, you can tell him or her that it wasn't a hit and they have to not take it.
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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2009, 08:55:45 am »
This is true, Maggiepoofs, but the archer should appologize profusely to thier teammate and call them dead. A decent Herald should call out the archer and target both who ignore the rule.

To my shame I shot McEwan in the back of the head this weekend at Althyng. I told him to stop getting in the way. It happens, fortunately it was a res battle and he could go right back to being a target after a short walk.

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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2009, 02:52:06 pm »
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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2009, 02:58:06 pm »
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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2009, 03:10:48 pm »
I have had the issue while in battle that the enemy shield line gives a step back and my weapon arcs and hits the shield of the person next to me.  Normally I get to slow it down and not make it a shieldbreaker hit, but if it slams, well they should take it.  I hates it when it happens....   
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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2009, 03:16:38 pm »
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« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2009, 05:02:59 pm »
I have had the issue while in battle that the enemy shield line gives a step back and my weapon arcs and hits the shield of the person next to me.  Normally I get to slow it down and not make it a shieldbreaker hit, but if it slams, well they should take it.  I hates it when it happens....  
If the enemy steps back, it is a sign for your teammates to charge forward.
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« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2009, 08:15:22 am »
Sometimes I kill a couple members of my own team. I like the battle to either be fair or more epic when I kill everyone by myself.  Don't need those other punks. 

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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2009, 03:44:20 pm »
I've killed myself a few times. It's easy, really. All you need is to catch your sword on something so it whips back and nails you in the jewels.
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« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2009, 11:01:49 pm »
When at a practice in Maethodoron, we dont usually worry about hitting ourselves. We assume that you are smart enough to NOT chop off your own arm or leg.
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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2009, 11:23:06 pm »
Unless you are using a flail. Then you can smack the crap out of yourself and you are cool :)
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« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2009, 01:31:20 am »
I like my teamates to have that feeling of what I like to call "Joker's Trust" You're my teamate until you're not my teamate anymore. If I feel like having a laugh at your confused look when I double green all my shieldmen in the back right before a charge? Well that's my prerogative.

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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2009, 03:38:13 am »
At the last practice during a team battle, one of my one teammates ran up and cut off my arm...at least it was res :P

Just for laughs, I'd like to get someone from my chapter in on this for practice...but they'd be my second, and I'd "commit" sepukku during a meat grinder or team battle. I figure the rest of the folks would find it humorous ('specially if we hammed it up some):P I know I will :D
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« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2009, 08:45:34 am »
Ahhhhh seppuku, my friends and I made fun of it so much at school last year
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« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2009, 11:52:03 am »
I like my teamates to have that feeling of what I like to call "Joker's Trust" You're my teamate until you're not my teamate anymore. If I feel like having a laugh at your confused look when I double green all my shieldmen in the back right before a charge? Well that's my prerogative.

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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2009, 09:55:13 am »
Friendly fire isn't.

This.  Period.  If a swing hits, take it, whether it was from a tough opponent, a noob, a teammate, or yourself.

We have been known to frequently commit suicide during a meat grinder for captains in order to make the new guys do it.

A great way to circumvent this that I learned at the Byzantium Opener.  Instead of playing "last two standing" as captains, play "first to die and last to die"  The confusion is extremely funny when people don't really realize how it works.


Also, I hate it when people kill themselves or "commit seppuku" when they are alone against tough odds.  I thought it was cool when I was new, now I just make sure I mutilate the corpses of those that do it. (just making sure, ya know, they mighta called light) :)
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Re: Friendly Fire?
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2009, 06:00:55 pm »
We have been known to frequently commit suicide during a meat grinder for captains in order to make the new guys do it.

A great way to circumvent this that I learned at the Byzantium Opener.  Instead of playing "last two standing" as captains, play "first to die and last to die"  The confusion is extremely funny when people don't really realize how it works.

Good old Byzantium. We do things like that. And I believe that my good pal Grey is referring to the time BEFORE we started doing first/last to die. Ah, me and Unknown would kill each other all the time. Good times... good times. Of course, nowadays, Chicken makes me a captain after the captains are already picked because I stepped off the edge of the world, even though I was already dead. The leson hear is don't mess with the heralds. They will resurrect you, just so they can kill you again.... stupid abuse of power....

Oh, and I've never limbed or killed myself, though I often get hit in the head with my own weapon. Should I take a courtesy death on myself?
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