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Tunic/Tabard construction
« on: July 01, 2010, 09:18:15 pm »
Hey guys. My question is this. If i take a long rectangular length of cloth, cut a hole in the center for my head, and cinch it around my waist, would I look like a total Nooblet? It would be quartered in colours of brown and green and have the tree of Gondor painted on it. Would this be acceptable?
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2010, 09:23:07 pm »
yes!

but it depends on what you're wearing under it as well.
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2010, 09:24:53 pm »
Just give it a little more effort and it'll be fine. Sew the shoulders together to give them a little slope (your shoulders are not a horizontal line), and if it's long, split it in the front and back for more freedom of movement.

Here's my surcoat, which is just barely more complicated than what you're talking about:

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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2010, 09:26:32 pm »
I have pretty good garb. A pair of Bottom Tie Knickers. A Brown Ren Shirt. A pleather (worn looking) vest. and either moccasins or hiking boots. and a purple satin sash for a belt
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2010, 09:29:07 pm »
Throwing on a tabard over a regular mundane t-shirt or white undershirt is frowned upon.  A simple tunic under said tabard would look very nice though.
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2010, 12:42:08 am »
Hey guys. My question is this. If i take a long rectangular length of cloth, cut a hole in the center for my head, and cinch it around my waist, would I look like a total Nooblet? It would be quartered in colours of brown and green and have the tree of Gondor painted on it. Would this be acceptable?

*shrug* There's worse out there.

And it's not a bad place to start from. Slap a tunic under that instead of a t-shirt, and take hivemind's suggestions for the tabard, and you've got yourself something nice.

I presume the colors/insignia are unit based?
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2010, 02:03:48 am »
hivemind thanks for the design, it's gonna save me A LOT of pain when i go to make mine. i found one design that was gonna make me do some weird stuff but this looks a whol lot better :]
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2010, 02:15:24 am »
It's just two pieces, sewn at the shoulder. Take a little more neck scoop out of the front piece, and cut the back piece a little longer. Eyelets, ties or grommets up the sides (just about 5-6 inches worth) make it really great.
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2010, 02:45:19 am »
Here is what you need:

And what it looks like on the field:
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2010, 03:57:45 am »
Honestly, throwing a tabbard over that garb might detract from your overall appearance. A tabbard over armor can look good, but there's no need to wear one if you have a perfectly good shirt or tunic.
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2010, 04:33:41 am »
but i thought tabards were made to show your faction/unit you belong to, and who doesn't want to be a team player?
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2010, 04:39:20 am »
If all of the unit does it. Otherwise, like Alric said, it can just spoil your garb.
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2010, 01:51:53 pm »
Thanks for the input everyone!!! Yeah I was planning on the whole unit wearing one of them. It would make us more recognizable and show unity.
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2010, 01:59:42 pm »
in accordance with all above usually tabbards are worn on the field, but unit belt sashes however can add to the garb, I've had a belt sash in every unit I've belonged too...

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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2010, 02:06:13 pm »
It's nice to wear something on the field that can instantly be recognized by your teammates. Off the field, a belt sash is plenty. 
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2010, 02:10:58 pm »
can a belt sash just be made with a length of cloth doubled up, sewn, and tied around the waist? That seems to be what mine is made out of lol
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2010, 02:13:52 pm »
A belt sash can be made any way you like, there are no requirements, however most people make their belt sashes by having a small rectangle of fabric putting a loop at on end and sliding it onto there belt.

Like this.
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2010, 02:33:20 pm »
i believe thats a Jari sash lol

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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2010, 02:50:03 pm »
One of 'em, anyway.

Pro tip: google instructions on how to use bias tape, and then learn to use it. That's what hivemind has on the edges of his tabard. It makes the finished edges of the tabard pretty, and eliminates the noob-headache of trying to hem a neck-hole. (everyone seems to try to hem the neck-hole, and it simply cannot be done and look good. You must use bias binding or a facing.....for which there are instructions in the how-to section of the dag website.)

I think, though, that if your unit all has good garb, you wouldn't want a very wide tabard on everyone. And the technique Kev├Ąt used on the Apollyon tabards (2 hemmed rectangles attached together by 2 hemmed straps) might be perfectly adequate for you. And fast. With no reason to need binding.
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2010, 03:02:19 pm »
My unit doesn't all have good garb. So far 3 of us do...but that's because we all use MY spare garb haha. The rest don't even have garb yet.
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2010, 03:23:48 pm »
A tunic apiece before tabards, then. Work on minimum garb before unifying appearance :)
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2010, 03:25:58 pm »
medieval collectibles usually has "ren shirts" for about $15. There is only one proficient cloth-worker in our Unit/Chapter...and we don't want her feeling like a Vietnamese pre-teen. The other people will more than likely just buy a shirt.
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2010, 03:31:10 pm »
you should hold garb nights with the unit and she can teach everyone how to sew... that's what we used to do, been making all my own garb for years

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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2010, 03:36:04 pm »
good idea! So far everyone in my unit lives within 4 blocks of eachother hahahaha. So it would definitely not be a hard thing to accomplish =]
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2010, 03:42:10 pm »
Yup, that's what I did when I started in Dag. Warband garb was abysmal.....but as soon as I taught a couple guys how to put together the basic tunic that they all wear now (I walked them through everything - prewashing the fabric, ironing it before cutting, laying out the pattern, cutting, finishing edges, pressing open seams, neckline facings, machine operation, winding the bobbin, hemming - so they would have the skills needed to do the work on their own) the garb rapidly improved.....and in quantity!! Once a few of the guys made good tunics successfully, more of the guys with rudimentary sewing skills stepped up their game and started playing with the pattern, making changes and additions. The teaching/garb night works :)
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2010, 03:49:29 pm »
(everyone seems to try to hem the neck-hole, and it simply cannot be done and look good. You must use bias binding or a facing.....for which there are instructions in the how-to section of the dag website.)

Hemming neck holes works fine if you do it by hand. And with a small enough seam allowance and a zig zag stitch you can do a good neck hem on the machine, too.
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2010, 03:56:09 pm »
On what type of fabric, Alric? I can't imagine linen giving enough AND refraining from fraying enough to narrow-hem on a tight curve. Wool, sure, especially if it is fulled. But for durability's sake.....a wider finish makes more sense. And generates less frustration ;)
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2010, 03:59:00 pm »
Wool is easier of course, but I've done it on both wool and linen. I fold my edges over 1/8 - 1/4", fold again, and use a running or hem stitch to hold them down.
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2010, 04:02:56 pm »
if you do it the reversal method it works great...

take 2 pieces of fabric one on top of another for your shoulders - say 2 18" x 18" squares
mark the seam/neck hole - 6" dia. hole should be good, makes a size 19 neck
sew on the mark.
cut the inside of the hole out leaving 3/8 to a half inch on the inside of the hole
snip every half inch or so on the leavins' inside the hole to JUST up to the seam you just made
turn the whole thing inside out, and iron the hole flat
sew another seam 1/4" on the outside of the neck hole keeping everything flat
attach front and back and sleeves, or do this to a large folded piece of fabric to make a good neck hole

viola!

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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2010, 04:05:07 pm »
That's called a facing, Hiram :D
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2010, 04:08:37 pm »
it took me a long time to type that, i didnt read that post LMAO

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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2010, 04:19:51 pm »
See, you knew what you were doing.....just didn't know that we were talking about the same thing!
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Re: Tunic/Tabard construction
« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2010, 04:29:50 pm »
yay!
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