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[Squire Ducky McFeelgood]

Once again in my attempt to keep threads going on their original subjects and to properly set the discussion for other ones, Im starting this thread based on something brought up in a previous thread.

"One Swing, One Hit" is the idea that if a swung is made and it lands on multiple hit zones (say an arm and body, or both legs), that you would take the damage to only one part, based on either what hit first or what hit harder. The same idea applies to weapons blocking. If you hit my sword or weapon hand first, then my arm, I can claim it was blocked by the sword/punch block.

I have my own opinions about this, but i wanted to set the framework for discussion first as see what happens. So.....

Does Dagorhir in its rules have anything pertaining to an idea of "One Swing, One Hit.", or do swings that follow through/hit multiple targets count? This slightly applies into to projectiles, but thats being discussed else where.

[Whisper Moonson]

Dagorhir has no such rule. Never has. Our game has always been based on the force of the hit. If one swing can land multiple thumpy hits, each of the thumps is a valid hit.

[Squire Lizard]

As far as I know the "One swing, One hit" is something upheld in another game but in ours we follow the addage that even if your weapon lands with sufficient force in multiple hit zones, such as a limb and torso or two limbs, you take the damamge to all zones that have been hit.
This has come up before I believe and that was the answer given to myself.

Take this as ever you will, this is just what I have been told and may or may not be correct.

[Olos]

"One Swing, One Hit" is a bel rule.  In dag, if a glaive catches both of your legs, you're dead.  Or if a blue catches your body armor and your arm, you lose the arm and the body armor.  This all assumes, of course, that all hits were sufficient.

[Alric]

3.4.1  A hit from a hand-held weapon counts when the weapon’s striking surface hits with sufficient force.  Clarification: taps, grazing, and glancing shots do not count as sufficient force.

These are the criteria for judging if a hit counts. If one swing can hit me in two places, both with sufficient force (and this does happen to me, not infrequently), then both hits are good.

Part of the confusion, i think, comes from the Bel rule: 'A single strike can only damage one Target Area.' There is no rule like this in Dagorhir's rule book, though.

(apologies for the repetition, others replied as I was posting)

[Judge Dredd]

3.4.1  A hit from a hand-held weapon counts when the weapon’s striking surface hits with sufficient force.  Clarification: taps, grazing, and glancing shots do not count as sufficient force.

Gonna go ahead and agree with what everyone else said. If your weapon hits three kittens and a puppy but still hits me with the force required in da rules, I take it.

[Squire Lizard]

3.4.1  A hit from a hand-held weapon counts when the weapon’s striking surface hits with sufficient force.  Clarification: taps, grazing, and glancing shots do not count as sufficient force.

Gonna go ahead and agree with what everyone else said. If your weapon hits three kittens and a puppy but still hits me with the force required in da rules, I take it.

Awwww, poor cannine lol

[Milo Baines]

why three kittens...what's up with that...

[Squire Ducky McFeelgood]

Thats as i've always played it. Just making sure i understand popular opinion. I have a mission im working on and all of these clarification questions are helping me out.

[Silk]

I've heard the phrase invoked when someone asks "If I swing two blues with one hand does one of them count for armor and one count for body?" Or "If I build a double headed flail will one count as armor and one count as body?" The answer being "No, no matter how many weapons you hold in your hand you can only hit once per swing." This does not mean that you can't hit multiple zones with one swing." Make more sense?

[Azgarehta]

At the same time, I'd like to see anyone hold two swords in one hand and be able to generate sufficient force with both of them.

[Seiichirô]

Careful what you ask for.

As for me, if I feel the hit, I'm taking it.

[Lady Krystal]

I've heard the phrase invoked when someone asks "If I swing two blues with one hand does one of them count for armor and one count for body?" Or "If I build a double headed flail will one count as armor and one count as body?" The answer being "No, no matter how many weapons you hold in your hand you can only hit once per swing." This does not mean that you can't hit multiple zones with one swing." Make more sense?

I think that might be where some of the cross-game confusion comes from. I like your description though ^.^ Perhaps an addendum should be mentioned in the hit zone portion of the rules? I don't like to spell everything out, but I think if one game has one rule and we don't.. perhaps clarification isn't so bad to keep everyone in the know.

[Askarus Space Beard]

Careful what you ask for.

As for me, if I feel the hit, I'm taking it.

You're prob the most honorable person i have ever fought on the field, ever. Stay classy sir.

[Fug]

Careful what you ask for.

As for me, if I feel the hit, I'm taking it.

You're prob the most honorable person i have ever fought on the field, ever. Stay classy sir.

He gets praised when he says he takes everything he feels, and people tell me I am ruining the game. Neat.

[Askarus Space Beard]

I don't know what you're talking about?

[Seiichirô]

1) That's because I'm me.

c) I take any hit I feel regardless if it happened on one swing or multiple.  Still has to be a properly planted hit.  No grazes.  No pushing me with an edge.

I have enough to handle with my own technique and counting received hits.  I don't want to have to factor in whether it was one swing or two or what hit first.  I like the interchange to play out fast.  As a receiver, all I want to think about is "did I feel the hit?" and "what damage do I play out?".  As the feeder, I just want to make sure I execute the technique properly and that I tell someone if the hit was not legit like a flat or shaft.  I make no assumptions about how someone delivered a shot or how they felt it.  I feel it improves the pace of the game and promotes honorable play.

[Fug]

I don't know what you're talking about?

That really wasn't aimed towards you, or anyone specifically. Just get annoyed of the banter on these boards. I've been told on multiple occasions that I ruin the game because I take what I feel. Not really a point to going into the same old argument all over again, but that's all I was saying.

[Askarus Space Beard]

werd, I take what I feel at events. Not grazes or stuff but any true hit. 9/10 times if i get hit ones i get hit 20 times so whatever, it's a game.

At practice, I'm a little more of the "HIT ME LIKE A MAN" mentality.