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Question: Which kind of armor should be ban, if any?

  • Metal
    - 10 (6.7%)
    Leather
    - 24 (16.1%)
    Crappy looking armor
    - 45 (30.2%)
    Chain mail
    - 2 (1.3%)
    Keep it how it is
    - 32 (21.5%)
    crappily made armour
    - 31 (20.8%)
    ban all armor
    - 5 (3.4%)

Total Members Voted: 93

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Re: Armor poll
« Reply #50 on: January 18, 2011, 06:43:33 pm »
AND I PROPOSE THAT WE MAKE BADON HILL A WEEK LONG EVENT AND WE HAVE EVERY WEAPON CHECKER ARMED WITH A CAILPUR SO THAT EACH PEICE OF LEATHER ON THE FEILD CAN BE SCRUTINIZED FOR "ARMOR PASSING THICKNESS" EVERY INCH!  YES! WE CAN TAKE 5 DAYS TO CHECK IN CHECK WEAPONS AND ARMOR AND EVEN GARB! AND 1 DAY TO FIGHT AND PARTY AND 1 DAY TO PACK UP AND LEAVE! SOUNDS JUST GREAT!


CAN WE PLEASE JUST DO IT BY EYE AT EVENTS AND TRUST THAT PEOPLE ARE HONEST. SO WE CAN FOCUS ON THE...
oh i dont know...
BATTLE GAME!
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Re: Armor poll
« Reply #51 on: January 18, 2011, 07:34:53 pm »
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Re: Armor poll
« Reply #52 on: January 24, 2011, 01:00:16 am »
They'd be wrong to do so, since aluminum isn't allowed. And at 18 ga, aluminum would crease with the first solid hit. At 11 ga, it'd probably hold up alright, but that's a lot thicker and heavier. I'd think an armor checker would notice a few things:
1. Wow, this stuff is really thick! It must weigh a ton!
2. Wow, this stuff is no heavier than 18 gauge steel!
3. Y'know, this stuff has a whiter and duller sheen than steel.
4. Why does it sound dull, almost like plastic, when I tap it with something hard?
And for the record, I don't hate on aluminum. It just wasn't available until 150 years ago. It's a modern metal so it fails on realism, and there's no compelling safety or playability reason to allow it.
I hate to drop the name of other 'games' but I feel I should point out that 16 Ga Aluminium is legal in the SCA, and when revetted will withstand ratan. I think it could withstand a lil foam...

Oh, and why? Dagorhir is a BATTLE GAME!
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Re: Armor poll
« Reply #53 on: January 24, 2011, 08:30:53 am »
No one( who isn't dumb) is saying allun=minium can't work as armor. Several of us have already said it make great sca armor. So ****ing what?
1/8" abs plastic makes awesome sca armor. When made right and painted, it look JUST like painted steel armor. It's easy to form beautifuly, it's cheap and plentiful.
We can use it either and should not. Armor is NOT REQUIRED FOR DAGORHIR. These other materials are legal in SCA becuase armor IS ****ING REQUIRED.
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Re: Armor poll
« Reply #54 on: January 24, 2011, 06:28:53 pm »
I didn't read Jack's post as saying the SCA use it so it should be good for Dag, but more 'the SCA use it safely so I doubt it would be a safety issue here.' Maybe I read it wrong, but that's how it looks to me.
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Re: Armor poll
« Reply #55 on: January 24, 2011, 06:37:23 pm »
I didn't read Jack's post as saying the SCA use it so it should be good for Dag, but more 'the SCA use it safely so I doubt it would be a safety issue here.' Maybe I read it wrong, but that's how it looks to me.
Yeah, that's pretty much it.
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Re: Armor poll
« Reply #56 on: January 24, 2011, 06:47:27 pm »
Maybe, but the rattan fighting aluminum armor I've seen has all been in the 12 gauge range. I figure it's because some hardsuit fighters can put tasty dents in 14-16 gauge mild steel. I'm tempted to go get a sheet of 16 ga aluminum and beat on it, just to see what happens, but I can't afford dropping that kind of money on something I only plan to destroy. I'd start with foam, move on to rattan, and then finally steel.

BTW, why are we still talking about aluminum?
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« Reply #57 on: January 24, 2011, 07:33:37 pm »
Go back A bit Quorren, it's there...Trust me.
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Re: Armor poll
« Reply #58 on: January 24, 2011, 09:25:54 pm »
I don't even know why titanium is allowed. tin however, could be....

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« Reply #59 on: January 25, 2011, 12:08:17 am »
They'd be wrong to do so, since aluminum isn't allowed. And at 18 ga, aluminum would crease with the first solid hit. At 11 ga, it'd probably hold up alright, but that's a lot thicker and heavier. I'd think an armor checker would notice a few things:
1. Wow, this stuff is really thick! It must weigh a ton!
2. Wow, this stuff is no heavier than 18 gauge steel!
3. Y'know, this stuff has a whiter and duller sheen than steel.
4. Why does it sound dull, almost like plastic, when I tap it with something hard?
And for the record, I don't hate on aluminum. It just wasn't available until 150 years ago. It's a modern metal so it fails on realism, and there's no compelling safety or playability reason to allow it.
I hate to drop the name of other 'games' but I feel I should point out that 16 Ga Aluminium is legal in the SCA, and when revetted will withstand ratan. I think it could withstand a lil foam...

Oh, and why? Dagorhir is a BATTLE GAME!

I would like to point out that in SCA heavy armor is REQUIRED.

Armor is not required to play dag, so we can be more picky with our material.
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« Reply #60 on: January 25, 2011, 11:45:48 pm »
I don't even know why titanium is allowed. tin however, could be....

Because in strength, weight and expense, titanium bears a strong resemblance to mithril. And when you consider that the founders were as much Tolkienists as they were medievalists, you can see the appeal. But due to the very spendy nature of titanium, there's little danger of it becoming widespread.
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Re: Armor poll
« Reply #61 on: January 26, 2011, 07:13:14 am »
Leave it how it is.

Crappy looking or cappily made armor is too subjective to constitute a rule change.  Let "Dagorhir Dawrinism" do its thing...

If its crappy looking people will make fun of you and target you til you stop wearing it.

If its crappily made, then enjoy that crappy rivet or unsafe edge cutting you whenever you get hit. 
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