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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #50 on: November 06, 2011, 09:40:29 am »
It was pretty good, wasn't it? :)
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #51 on: November 06, 2011, 11:02:23 am »
Thanks again for another round of this amazing event Mittelmarch and all those that volunteered!

Best day event in all the land!

And great job red team from bringing in the victory.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #52 on: November 06, 2011, 11:46:36 am »
No disrespect, but who the F- let the guy in ridiculously mundanes onto the field, wearing sports sunglasses AND a WWE wrestling belt.    Did anyone at least on the red team say anything about that?

On a brighter note, WAR was fuggin amazing. Good job red team on winning the day, but great great fun was had by all!
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #53 on: November 06, 2011, 02:57:17 pm »
No disrespect, but who the F- let the guy in ridiculously mundanes onto the field, wearing sports sunglasses AND a WWE wrestling belt.    Did anyone at least on the red team say anything about that?

Me and most of my Unit confronted him about in the nicest way possible. Claiming he was from an A game group, but we told him we've seen A gamers with proper garb. And we explained to him that his get up was ruining the experience for a lot of people.

But yeah. on a light note. The event was amazing.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #54 on: November 06, 2011, 04:46:44 pm »
I Killed him every time i saw him...THAT SH::::T MAKES ME MADDDDDDDDDDDDDD.......WE DO NOTTT NEED THAT ON THE FIELD!! STILL SWEET EVENT!
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #55 on: November 06, 2011, 05:12:38 pm »
AMAZING EVENT. God, we dont run events like this out east. I'm so glad I went. it was worth the drive and then some.

I hurt all over, am beyond sore, every muscle in my body is throbbing, and I am so very, very happy.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #56 on: November 06, 2011, 07:05:49 pm »
Didn't care for it so much.  The teams seemed unbalanced  from the beginning and it was never fixed. And it was super cross gamey.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #57 on: November 06, 2011, 10:38:25 pm »
Didn't care for it so much.  The teams seemed unbalanced  from the beginning and it was never fixed. And it was super cross gamey.

I too would've liked to see a closer balance. I thought the teams were going to be rearranged after the break. However, in most of the areas I fought, Blue eventually broke the Red line/strategy/plan. And I was fighting...so I really don't care :) Great event. Love the cross country/endurance feel. Not even of these types left!

BTW, was there a sword in lost & found? Long blue/green with a very cushy stab tip, hilt had an oblong cross-section shape to it & chocolate leather wrapped around, gray-green cloth pommel cover, duct-tape crossguard. Heavier than most blues--more like a sword than a toy :)
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #58 on: November 07, 2011, 12:08:42 am »
Me and Sas got back around 11am on Sunday. I may have only gotten to fight for 30 minutes before spraining my ankle but damn was it fun to smash that line over and over!

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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #59 on: November 07, 2011, 12:10:36 am »

Great event. Love the cross country/endurance feel. Not even of these types left!


Agreed about the battle layout, cross country thing.  That was pretty cool.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #60 on: November 07, 2011, 10:58:06 am »
Did anyone at least on the red team say anything about that?

The exact words said to him when he hit the field and walked through reds castle was "Smurf what the **** are you wearing, I can find you garb if need be man" I know because I said it.

as i said in another thread, Best event ive had all year. And I hit a lot more events the most people. Minor issues that needed fixed that should never have ruined anyones day.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #61 on: November 07, 2011, 08:19:27 pm »
Awesome event, guys! Can not wait til next year.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #62 on: November 08, 2011, 02:28:41 am »
Yeah, the balance was a bit off but the location was spectacular.  Love fighting in the trees, hated trying to convince people that fighting by the lake was dumb because it didn't get us any points.  I loved the people who were setting up traps in the woods (ingenuity you don't see in field battles often).  Thanks guys for a great event and hopefully we'll get more Eryndor out next year.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #63 on: November 08, 2011, 04:42:20 am »
I also had a fantastic time and look forward to next year.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #64 on: November 08, 2011, 03:30:49 pm »
Thanks for coming everybody!

Thanks for the comments and concerns.   We are addressing  issues for next year. 

Balancing is tricky, we got it perfect last year, but this year not so much.  We want people to be able to fight with their units. I think that's important.   I assure you that will be at the top of the list for next year. Along with D-bags who don't wear at least minimal garb.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #65 on: November 08, 2011, 03:42:05 pm »
Thanks for coming everybody!

Thanks for the comments and concerns.   We are addressing  issues for next year. 

Balancing is tricky, we got it perfect last year, but this year not so much.  We want people to be able to fight with their units. I think that's important.   I assure you that will be at the top of the list for next year. Along with D-bags who don't wear at least minimal garb.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #66 on: November 08, 2011, 06:28:27 pm »
I wish that we could have utilized the field a little bit more. When we first got there, we saw a beautiful huge open field, and there was barely any fighting on it. I feel like the red team had a big advantage over blue -- being made up of mostly experienced spears and sword/board. Made it a grindfest in the confined areas (i.e., everywhere) for the red team. I'm surprised nobody got hurt running through those woods with water on one side and thorny plants on the other, especially with all the spears pushing everyone back. The woods was a cool place to fight, but shouldn't have been the main focus of battle, in my opinion.

Hopefully next year there will be more chances for open field fighting. Other than that, great turnout, and some good fighting despite. Great job by the event coordinators keeping things organized.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #67 on: November 08, 2011, 06:33:18 pm »
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #68 on: November 08, 2011, 07:10:48 pm »
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The teams seemed unbalanced  from the beginning and it was never fixed. And it was super cross gamey.
These two are related.
It's so cute that people keep trying to project this idiotic feeling that somehow Dag fighters are inferior to other games fighters. Especially when the preponderance of weaponry of other games are weighted in such a way as to make what they do border on chimerical as it relates to actual fighting.

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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #69 on: November 09, 2011, 12:17:24 am »
I seen a few of people from the A game there but I really couldn't tell a difference fighting wise or any other way if i hadn't overheard them being from said game... albeit i am new and this was my first event but I believe it went really well... :)
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #70 on: November 09, 2011, 12:40:40 am »
I think there were a few too many variables just to say the teams were unbalanced. The field itself isn't symmetric, so with only one half down, you can't discount that impact. Also, how do you account for strategy before the battle begins. Even if you split the teams exactly down the middle and had 100 vs 100 of equal skill and weapon load-outs, you could still have one team with a serious advantage over the other. And if it comes down to making it 50 vs 150, that would compound some disadvantage in just being able to cover the area that we had to work with.

If your only take away from four hours of fighting is that your team came up with less overall points, I think you might be missing out on a lot of what Dagorhir offers. There were too many valiant last stands to eek out a few more points, and too many heroic charges to break the enemy's line, to roll up into just a number.

I was on the red team, who carried the day in the end, but there were only a couple times while holding the enemy castle that I really felt we had the upper hand. I was pushed off capture points multiple times by superior blue forces. I saw the battles for the choke points near the pond go back and forth depending on which team had a valkyrie near or who brought in reinforcements. On multiple attempts to take the graveyard point, we were repelled. Each of these minor events are opportunities to have fun in the game. Don't let the final score dictate the satisfaction you have from a good day of fighting.

Now, don't get me wrong, I like winning and trying to attain a goal and probably would voice some disgruntled remarks if on the other side of the coin, but even so, reflecting back on the moments that made up the day, I'd have to think that I got more enjoyment from it than not.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #71 on: November 09, 2011, 01:07:17 am »
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« Reply #72 on: November 09, 2011, 01:18:35 am »
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« Reply #73 on: November 09, 2011, 12:00:41 pm »
It's in my contract that we don't fight without a thunderstorm.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #74 on: November 09, 2011, 01:32:35 pm »
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It's so cute that people keep trying to project this idiotic feeling that somehow Dag fighters are inferior to other games fighters. Especially when the preponderance of weaponry of other games are weighted in such a way as to make what they do border on chimerical as it relates to actual fighting.

Dude, don't you get it? That's all they've got. They don't have population, they don't have prestige, they don't have aesthetics... they got nothing, so all they can come up with to feel better about their failed try at a different game is that they're better fighters. You take that away from them, and they're nothing, so yeah, they're going to cling to it with their dying breath, no matter how often it's proved it's not true.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #75 on: November 09, 2011, 01:45:56 pm »
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The teams seemed unbalanced  from the beginning and it was never fixed. And it was super cross gamey.
These two are related.
It's so cute that people keep trying to project this idiotic feeling that somehow Dag fighters are inferior to other games fighters. Especially when the preponderance of weaponry of other games are weighted in such a way as to make what they do border on chimerical as it relates to actual fighting.

Dude, don't you get it? That's all they've got. They don't have population, they don't have prestige, they don't have aesthetics... they got nothing, so all they can come up with to feel better about their failed try at a different game is that they're better fighters. You take that away from them, and they're nothing, so yeah, they're going to cling to it with their dying breath, no matter how often it's proved it's not true.

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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #76 on: November 09, 2011, 01:53:30 pm »
I was on the red team, who carried the day in the end, but there were only a couple times while holding the enemy castle that I really felt we had the upper hand. I was pushed off capture points multiple times by superior blue forces. I saw the battles for the choke points near the pond go back and forth depending on which team had a valkyrie near or who brought in reinforcements. On multiple attempts to take the graveyard point, we were repelled. Each of these minor events are opportunities to have fun in the game. Don't let the final score dictate the satisfaction you have from a good day of fighting.

Now, don't get me wrong, I like winning and trying to attain a goal and probably would voice some disgruntled remarks if on the other side of the coin, but even so, reflecting back on the moments that made up the day, I'd have to think that I got more enjoyment from it than not.
I was in the castles for the blue team during both parts of the game, working as a spear at first, then a healer as the game progressed and I saw that our team needed it, so I saw some of those last stands you talked about. Regardless of which side of the castle I was on at the time, it was an awesome fight. At the end of the day, I wasn't even thinking about the final scores of the game. They could have never been mentioned, because I was sore and tired, and glad for a day of good fighting.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #77 on: November 09, 2011, 02:57:47 pm »
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The teams seemed unbalanced  from the beginning and it was never fixed. And it was super cross gamey.
These two are related.
It's so cute that people keep trying to project this idiotic feeling that somehow Dag fighters are inferior to other games fighters. Especially when the preponderance of weaponry of other games are weighted in such a way as to make what they do border on chimerical as it relates to actual fighting.
Dude, don't you get it? That's all they've got. They don't have population, they don't have prestige, they don't have aesthetics... they got nothing, so all they can come up with to feel better about their failed try at a different game is that they're better fighters. You take that away from them, and they're nothing, so yeah, they're going to cling to it with their dying breath, no matter how often it's proved it's not true.

You guys make me laugh a lot.

Take your best fighter in 1 specific game who has NEVER FOUGHT ANYTHING ELSE take him and put him against the best fighter in another game who fights multiple and the guy who fights multiple games will win 75% of the time.

Stick fighting is ****ing stick fighting. Doing MORE STICK FIGHTING is better then only doing one. Cross gaming= more stick fighting thus a higher chance they are better fighters.

Someday youll understand that they are all the same game, Theres as many slackers in each and theres and many awesome folks in each. Until you do you'll just make it harder to grow all games.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #78 on: November 09, 2011, 03:09:09 pm »
Yea, kind of thought this one was going downhill fast.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #79 on: November 09, 2011, 05:51:07 pm »
Dude, don't you get it? That's all they've got. They don't have population, they don't have prestige, they don't have aesthetics... they got nothing, so all they can come up with to feel better about their failed try at a different game is that they're better fighters. You take that away from them, and they're nothing, so yeah, they're going to cling to it with their dying breath, no matter how often it's proved it's not true.

Yeah, I hate how those SCA crossgamers are so arrogant about Dag people! :P
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #80 on: November 09, 2011, 08:49:27 pm »
Didn't see anyone out on the field that was this game or that game, all I saw were fighters.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #81 on: November 09, 2011, 10:26:56 pm »
Didn't see anyone out on the field that was this game or that game, all I saw were fighters.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #82 on: November 09, 2011, 11:32:34 pm »
It's in my contract that we don't fight without a thunderstorm.

I was there. You should've been fighting :)
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #83 on: November 10, 2011, 08:22:46 am »
Didn't see anyone out on the field that was this game or that game, all I saw were fighters.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #84 on: November 10, 2011, 08:28:50 am »
Didn't see anyone out on the field that was this game or that game, all I saw were fighters.

omg total going to use this quote some time.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #85 on: November 10, 2011, 10:20:40 am »
And God bless us, everyone!

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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #86 on: November 10, 2011, 12:52:10 pm »
Dude, don't you get it? That's all they've got. They don't have population, they don't have prestige, they don't have aesthetics... they got nothing, so all they can come up with to feel better about their failed try at a different game is that they're better fighters. You take that away from them, and they're nothing, so yeah, they're going to cling to it with their dying breath, no matter how often it's proved it's not true.

I'm a better fighter than you, AND I look better. How about them apples?
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #87 on: November 14, 2011, 03:11:42 am »
Any pictures or video posted yet?
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #88 on: November 16, 2011, 01:24:39 pm »
Dude, don't you get it? That's all they've got. They don't have population, they don't have prestige, they don't have aesthetics... they got nothing, so all they can come up with to feel better about their failed try at a different game is that they're better fighters. You take that away from them, and they're nothing, so yeah, they're going to cling to it with their dying breath, no matter how often it's proved it's not true.

I'm a better fighter than you, AND I look better. How about them apples?

Pretty sure you're wrong on both counts.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #89 on: November 16, 2011, 02:10:03 pm »
ohh snap you guys should fight it off and then have a fashion contest. Cleveland is halfway between you??? ehh ehh?
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #90 on: November 16, 2011, 03:51:28 pm »
Nobody wants to go to Cleveland, not even people from Cleveland.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #91 on: November 16, 2011, 04:07:42 pm »
Friends, there's no need for bashing.  We don't care what you play with, just come play with us. There was no Crossgaming, only crossfighters,  all weapons met Dagorhir specs.  And the field followed dagorhir rules. Just because you took your 20oz stick and got your butt handed to you by the guy going 12oz min doesn't matter.   Sure I'd enjoy a game with some good meaty weapons, but lets face it, 12oz with good balancing equals faster blade speed.  And I gotta make up for the pile of suckage I bring to the field.  (That's called modesty, try it.)

As advertised, War is experimental and evolving,  I'm soaking in all the criticism, even if your delivery is half-cocked.

For those who get War and what we're trying to do at Mittelmarch, thanks. 

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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #92 on: November 16, 2011, 08:24:12 pm »
Not to stir up anything, just out of honest curiosity: were weapons weighed at weapons check?  I don't remember seeing a scale, but at the same time I wasn't eyeballing the table either.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #93 on: November 17, 2011, 08:01:33 am »
There was a scale, we only weigh the questionable weapons.   I will check with my head weapons checker to confirm there wasn't any under weight weapons allowed. If there were, I'm gonna be pissed as much as you would be. 

I know there's a swarm of omni-uber-balanced weapons hitting the field, which look a lot like those magic sticks we see elsewhere.
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Re: WAR - Nov 5, 2011 (Indianapolis, IN)
« Reply #94 on: January 25, 2012, 08:07:32 am »
Super late, but I wanted to give a shout out to the folks of Mittelmarch for a most excellent event. Can't wait for next years. See you at the O's!
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