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Eating at campout events.
« on: February 22, 2012, 04:24:29 pm »
A bunch of folks from my chapter are headed to Ides of March. For all but two of us, this will be our first big campout event.

I'm currently most worried about food and drink at this point, but what kind of logistics advice can you give us?

Regarding food and drink, what are the cheapest options? What are your favorite choices, how equitable are they?
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Re: Eating at campout events.
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2012, 05:49:41 pm »
It depends on whether you want to cook or not at Ides, and whether 'cooking' means 'fussing with a campfire' or 'bringing some sort of camp stove.' We all like camping a ton more now that there are a couple $30 single-burner propane stoves floating around the unit. Not having to worry about firewood is great.

For meals, anything carb-based is going to be cheaper than anything meat-based (bread? noodles? potatoes? rice!), and meat stews are always cheaper than 'everyone gets a chunk of meat' dinners. Eggs are a cheap protein (breakfast!). Last Rag we ate a ton of stir fries and curry, since brown rice is a very inexpensive basis for a meal and a good way to get yourself out of the post-fighting "I don't want to eat anything because my blood sugar is low" slump.

If you don't have any cooking equipment (like so many college-dorm'd fighters), you can cook stuff on sticks (chili dogs are cheap, kebabs are fun) or in tinfoil (I mean, c'mon, foil dinners? The best). Anything that calls itself a 'one pot dinner' should be easy. I like to have bread and apples in camp in case the meal doesn't go far enough.

New folks often eat badly their first campout because they underestimate their needs. You will be tired and hungry, and living off a can of Spaghettios and a Poptart can do you more harm than good. Snacks like apples, granola, peanuts, baby carrots, or beef jerky are better choices in the long run!

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Prep work is your friend: trying to find a surface to chop vegetables on after dark at a campout sucks, so cut, cook, unpackage, and season everything you possibly can while you're at home. You'll haul less equipment and get to spend less time fussing over your dinner. In the past, we've pre-cooked mashed potatoes for shepherd's pie, baked bread (cheaper than buying), cooked handheld meat pies (awesome for the first night you get there-- no one wants to cook while they're setting up tents and meeting people!), fixed up the meat and other stuff for tacos, and way more

Be pessimistic about how long it takes to cook your food and plan accordingly, and bring back-up food in case it pours the night you were planning to cook over the fire. (This is why prepared food is great: if you pre-cook and pre-season your taco meat, you don't have to heat it if it's storming. If you can't swing this, pack extra snacks). Similarly, stuff that's easy in your kitchen (like draining spaghetti or stirring a pot that's heating) can be vastly more difficult over a fire.

The first evening at the site can be chaotic between setting up the tent and running around meeting people, so we plan not to cook that night, or to opt for something really easy. It's a good night to do sandwiches or hot dogs. Having food to share the first night can be a good way to meet new people, too!

And... I have no idea how helpful that was. Between former Girl Scout-y-ness and being the sort of whose brain is prone to going wonky when improperly nourished, campfire food is a Thing with me-- but perhaps I didn't communicate anything useful! Sirilay, Dominick, Ketch, and Athelas would be great people to ask, I bet.

In conclusion: Rice. Laziness. Snacks. More laziness.
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Re: Eating at campout events.
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2012, 09:20:54 pm »
This is some good food advice, take it.  I also agree granola bars go a long way.  My first event I found it was a very good idea to keep a box of granola bars by your bedding (I had the dipped kind and it was awesome) so you can just wake up and there's something.  That and peanuts for fast protien, for when you can't make eggs, just make sure no one is alergic.
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2012, 09:30:28 pm »
As someone who's attended an event at this site, there's a fairly awesome on-site kitchen that's very reasonably priced. A reasonably self-controlled person can feed themselves with about 20 bucks for the whole event.
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Re: Eating at campout events.
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2012, 09:43:12 pm »
Isla, you've definitely made me eager to try preparing a stir-fry in camp now. I'm going to collaborate with the guys in my unit and see if we can make that happen. Thank you very much for your thorough post!

I will certainly bring a box of granola bars with me, Norik, thanks.

And that's a great thing to hear, Lachlan, that means that I have a fallback plan at the very worst.
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Re: Eating at campout events.
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2012, 10:05:05 pm »
For weekend campouts, I often try to think "traveling food." What could a soldier reasonably carry for food? Things I usually end up bringing:
Bread (hard crusty loaves or rolls, or you could learn to make hardtack or oatcake)
Hard cheese (aged cheddar and harder Swiss varieties like Jarlsberg hold up nicely)
Beef jerky or smoked sausages
Hardboiled eggs
Apples (fresh or dried)
Nuts (I usually bring walnuts and hazelnuts, 'cause I'm a Viking)
Dried cherries

For cooking on the fire, I usually pack Cornish pastys wrapped in foil (it's like a hand-held meat pie. They were standard fare for Cornish copper miners in the UP of Michigan) and sometimes a cast iron pan and some eggs. Though last time, Jari requested waffles, so he got a box of eggos to toast on a fork over the fire :D
Another morning option is porridge - with a campfire, you can soak your grains in warm water overnight and just heat and eat in the morning.

I like having lots of food around, but I don't like to cook much, so this is what works for me.

Oh, and for drink? Water. Lots of water. Assume water will be a pain in the butt to get and/or it will taste terrible and bring a bunch, preferrably in large containers rather than a ton of small disposable containers. (fieldside garbage is often a huge problem at multi-day events.)
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Re: Eating at campout events.
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2012, 10:59:25 pm »
First off, listen to Ilsa. Always.

That being said, you need to understand your group. How many people will you have? When are you arriving? Ides is four days long and arriving Thursday morning vs Friday night is a huge difference. Can each person kick in $20 for firewood/food? Does anyone have some all metal cookware to use? Are there people who gravitate towards being den mothers, or are all of you going to fight 110% till dark?

The answers to those questions will really give you an idea of how to proceed. Worst case scenario, hot dogs, jerky, gorp, and some fruit will get you to feast Saturday night. Now if you can get some basic groceries never forget the immortal words of Carl Weathers, "You got a stew, baby!" Water, a few bouillon cubes, and any ingredients are an easy to cook meal that will also keep you warm at night. Another great and easy option is take meat and wrap in foil. You can roast an entire ham, a whole chicken, a bunch of peppers and mushrooms with some butter and salt, all with heat and some tinfoil. Hell, you can skip the fire and do this on your car engine.

If you can get an idea of what you're going to be working with beforehand, you can set your expectations for the camp and then follow through. Things will go wrong inevitably, be ready for that. Luckily the attendees at Ides are friendlier than some other national events and can loan you some little things here and there. The campsite itself also has great amenities, and there's a taco bell only a few miles down the road anyway. I'll see you guys there.


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Re: Eating at campout events.
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2012, 11:02:41 pm »
$20 is only 10 French Grilled Cheese Sandwiches.


Listen to Rap if you want nice things, but if you're new to camping and feeding yourself like an adult.

This is what you need. It may seem excessive, but this is how you do it.

Food:
Hot Dogs. Get the middle pack.



Get two loaves of french bread.

Get a block of cheese.

Get two big bags of chips.

Get some apples and a bunch of bananas.

A 36 pack case of water.

Season with whatever else you like.

This is per two people.
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2012, 11:30:45 pm »
For cooking on the fire, I usually pack Cornish pastys wrapped in foil (it's like a hand-held meat pie. They were standard fare for Cornish copper miners in the UP of Michigan)

Om nom nom nom nom.

But seriously, make some pastys. Find a crust recipe (and use butter instead of shortening, it makes a huge taste difference and is probably better for you), make a "calzone" shape for the pasty, then add steak, potatoes, rutabaga, onions, carrots, and parsley (we only cook the steak to medium-medium well before throwing them in there). These are made pretty well with chicken or vegetarian as well, and they're still acceptable if you don't like rutabaga :D . I forget how long we cook them (I want to say 35-45 minutes, but just keep an eye on them), but I'm fairly sure we bake them at 350 to 400 degrees. Also, throw some butter in there before you roll them up, and make sure you cut a few ventilation holes on the top so they don't 'splode in your oven. They also re-heat fairly well, though the steak I use usually ends up being tough after re-freezing them for more than a few days.
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2012, 01:44:41 am »
beefaroni, bread, butter and beer man.
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2012, 08:59:47 am »
Beer
Vodka
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Slimfast
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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2012, 09:17:32 am »
In addition to the above:

Bacon. Tastes amazing, good source of fat in the morning before fighting all day, and if you bring enough to share, it's a surefire way to make instant friends.
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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2012, 09:40:46 am »
Yes, bacon is food of the gods.
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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2012, 12:04:29 pm »
Yes, bacon is food of the gods.

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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2012, 12:42:49 pm »
Beer
Vodka
cans of soup
Slimfast
beef jerky

You can even do Ragnarok on a budget of $200 so easily if you are willing...

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« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2012, 01:11:58 pm »
who hasnt man a little hot sauce and your golden.
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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2012, 01:24:02 pm »
  People tend to pack tightly so tortillas negate crushed bread if you tend to have that problem ( rolled tortillas dipped into canned chili sauce-beans or sans- make a quick, easy and decent communal "pot meal" provided you don't worry about shared germs, etc...)
  Granola and cereal bars go a long way, are easy/quick to pack/eat and are actually nutritious.
  Dehydrated meats, fruits and veggies can be eaten as jerky or thrown into a stew ( a slice of meat and 2 pieces of veggies makes cup ramen appealing to the masses).
  Don't forget the travel size seasonings. Seriously. They may have been a luxury way back when but they can mean the difference between a meal and a feast.
  If you're a softhearted, kind and generous person pack for 1 more person, just in case. One year a person lost his wallet on the road and still came to the event; later on we found out he was exercising his survival skills in the neighboring woods to supplement his meager supplies.
 
 

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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2012, 01:31:35 pm »
who hasnt man a little hot sauce and your golden.

Even though we feast like Kings now. We should defs have a poor man's feast one night.
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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2012, 03:17:07 pm »
yeah we can mix the dinte more beef stew with the ramon noodles and be classy and **** maybe throw some hot dogs in there for the special occasion.
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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2012, 03:20:15 pm »
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« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2012, 06:16:46 pm »
can't forget the MD 20/20 and tears.

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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2012, 06:27:57 pm »
can't forget the MD 20/20 and tears.

We should have a colt 45 party.

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« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2012, 08:54:02 pm »
good times with the king cobra have been known to be had at britannia faire. We can go alcholympis style with a 15 foot beer bong and hurricane high gravity thats classy as hell.
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« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2012, 12:01:37 am »
Hey Zovc, I have a portable camp stove I am bringing, and Claire said she doesn't mind doing some cooking.  A stirfry would be pretty rocking one night, but I definitely also plan on bringing some cheap food like hot dogs and chilli, but we should also get some bacon and eggs because that is whats up. Also I have 2 orange trees in my yard so I am bringing like 2-3 walmart sacks full of oranges for everybody.
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« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2012, 05:27:39 am »
If you have a campstove and a big stew pot you can make full dinners ahead of time and just do the "boil-in-a-bag" thing at camp. I make Guinness Stew and stewed chicken. Freeze it in ziploc baggies and just do the bag and boil at camp. This also works with any kind of rice. Definitely bring fresh fruit and veggies... something most camps are without. You can't live (healthy) on meat and potatoes.
I am also a HUGE fan of bread, apples and cheese for immediate munchies.
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« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2012, 06:00:58 am »
This is no fair, you're all making me hungry and now you've got me thinking about what i'm going to eat at Gates of Summer this year.
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« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2012, 10:27:11 am »
Hey Zovc, I have a portable camp stove I am bringing, and Claire said she doesn't mind doing some cooking.  A stirfry would be pretty rocking one night, but I definitely also plan on bringing some cheap food like hot dogs and chilli, but we should also get some bacon and eggs because that is whats up. Also I have 2 orange trees in my yard so I am bringing like 2-3 walmart sacks full of oranges for everybody.

Much deliciousness will be had. Let me know if you and Claire want to work on preparing food. I don't have any devices for the preparation of food (well, I have a stove and a microwave), but I'm pretty sure I can do good work with a sharp knife and a cutting board. We should definitely bring some Louisiana seasonings with us to make friends. :3
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« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2012, 10:33:46 am »
Also, depending upon the size of the group you are feeding.... stone soup.
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« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2012, 11:38:27 am »
Never mind the seasonings...bring me some of dem fresh oranges, and we'll be super good friends!
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« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2012, 02:32:09 pm »
can't forget the MD 20/20 and tears.

We should have a colt 45 party.

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Beer
Vodka
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My Rag booze budget is 200$. Being an adult is pretty awesome.

I remember doing Rag on Event fee and 75$. Oh man. You ever eat Ramen noodles as crackers?

Yeah dude, Skvisch and I usually budget about $700 for us to go to Rag, a large portion of that is booze.

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Re: Eating at campout events.
« Reply #34 on: February 25, 2012, 03:15:25 pm »
This is no fair, you're all making me hungry and now you've got me thinking about what i'm going to eat at Gates of Summer this year.

Dude I'm smoking some bacon explosions for Gates. We're gonna be set xD
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« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2012, 12:00:44 pm »
This is no fair, you're all making me hungry and now you've got me thinking about what i'm going to eat at Gates of Summer this year.

Dude I'm smoking some bacon explosions for Gates. We're gonna be set xD

Please repeat at Rag and invite me...  I still claim to have been the first to make one on these forums.  lol

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« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2012, 01:26:22 pm »
This is no fair, you're all making me hungry and now you've got me thinking about what i'm going to eat at Gates of Summer this year.

Dude I'm smoking some bacon explosions for Gates. We're gonna be set xD

Totally gonna "forget" to bring food again and mooch off you guys.
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« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2012, 11:58:14 pm »
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« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2012, 01:35:24 am »
Yes dear, I know this.
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« Reply #39 on: February 28, 2012, 04:15:00 am »
Also, depending upon the size of the group you are feeding.... stone soup.

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« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2012, 08:09:43 am »
xD Olos I'm doing like.. three of 'em. One for the security meeting on Thursday and two more for the rest of the weekend. I'm sure I'll have leftovers ;)

@Thrush - You got it brah. I don't know how well they travel, but I'm thinking smoked meat should be fine once I get it packed right. I'm gonna talk to a buddy of mine and see how he suggests traveling so far with 'em.
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« Reply #41 on: February 29, 2012, 05:24:59 am »
who hasnt man a little hot sauce and your golden.

Even though we feast like Kings now. We should defs have a poor man's feast one night.

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« Reply #42 on: February 29, 2012, 09:18:17 am »
This is no fair, you're all making me hungry and now you've got me thinking about what i'm going to eat at Gates of Summer this year.

Dude I'm smoking some bacon explosions for Gates. We're gonna be set xD

Can you bring some to Rag? I don't have access to a smoker and since you are going to gates you cant go to the o's

Also for long campouts, like rag, how would you keep the meat fresh?
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« Reply #43 on: February 29, 2012, 09:39:11 am »
Freeze at home, then pack in a cooler.
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« Reply #44 on: February 29, 2012, 10:10:45 am »
itll last the whole week?
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« Reply #45 on: February 29, 2012, 10:19:20 am »
Depends how efficient/careful you are. Keep your cooler in the shade, open it as little as possible, and replace the ice on the top every few days depending on how quickly it's melting. If you're really planning out the week, put later meals on the bottom.
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« Reply #46 on: February 29, 2012, 10:24:20 am »
I bring all my meats frozen and in ziplocs. We use three coolers: beverages, meat, other food. If you keep the meat cooler iced down well enough you can keep stuff frozen almost all week (depending upon cooler quality).

I also keep quilted moving pads on top of the coolers to help with insulation and ice life.
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« Reply #47 on: March 01, 2012, 08:55:07 am »
Rojji, that's why I'm trying to look into how to package 'em a little better. Once they're smoked they should be fine so long as they're not out directly in the sun (there's a company here who created 'em and they're shrink-wrapped and shippable. So I can't imagine they can't handle a lil bit of travel) but I'm still going to probably talk to someone in one of my local meat departments about how they'd suggest transporting it.

I could also see if any of my relatives have one of those vacuum-sealer thingies. That'd make it easier just all around.
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« Reply #48 on: March 01, 2012, 09:38:06 am »
Made bacon explosions at Ides two or three years ago. Mmmmmmm.... sodium....
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Lady Krystal, ziploc makes baggies that come with a little pump so you can do vacuum sealing without the big machine. They are da bomb!
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