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Call for Clarity rule
Silk:
It seems like you've got the right idea.
What Alric says is completely right. The only differences that I teach are that if you're an archer and you don't know 100% where that arrow hit, you DO NOT call it. No point in clarifying if it's not even clear to you. If you call a shot and the person doesn't take it, it's not always because they're cheating. They may not hear you, or may think you'e talking to someone else. It is easier to shoot again than it is to waste time tracking down one hit. It cuts down on bs arguing and gives you more chances to kill stuff. If you're sure someone is cheating talk to a herald. This goes for both sides. Don't abuse the rule. I will call to let someone know about a shot, or to clear up whom or where it hit, i will not call to "make" somene take it. Some people interpret the rule that way, giving archers some "god like" power. This is not the case. Play nice, play fair and have a good time.
Bron:
Yeah, it has been a question on my mind since Ides of March. I enjoyed most of the event it was my first for this game. My first weapon superbly over padded an looking like a giant butter knife(It was a glaive). I read throw the 3 page discussion on it where Twinkle, Alric, Whisper, and a bunch of other people who I have come to respect on the boards tried defining it only to come up with the 2 camps lot on it.
Alric, you answer a lot of weapon build questions and are pretty helpful overall. Met you barely once when I was collecting weapons for my unit that were being checked at an event in Florida.
Silk, I completely love when you answer questions on archery as well. You teach the class and understand draw weights. Even though I am not an archer I kinda want to see what the class is about when I get a chance to go to Rag. Still poor college student with not enough time to go to a week long event.
Thank you all who answered this. I can't really say what I have seen amazing about the rest of you guys, since I have not read your post or talked to you in my dag life yet.
Eastland:
in my opinion, if its obviously over, like near or over your head, and they call dead, they are just being rude. and should be ignored.
Jack Stewart III:
Quote from: Bron on May 04, 2012, 05:05:55 pm>>>>Okay, so I know archers can call for Clarity and that does make sense at times, but what if you know there call on you was wrong. Like when your weapon is over your shoulder high enough that when the arrow hit the flat it would have gone through and passed you no problem and the archer calls you dead.[...]
So, is it okay to reply back to a bad call on clarity?
<<<<Their call is for clarity. If you see the arrow hit and know unequivocally that it would not have even come close to you, don't take death. If you do, you are rewarding a cheat/ rewarding a shoddy-archer.
However if there is even the slightest shadow of a doubt in your mind, you didn't see it, etc, take the death.
I know that this is an issue and a sensitive topic, but I know that I am not alone in having experiences with archers firing and immediately calling BS-shots, before the arrow even comes close to its target...
Alric:
But the thing is, when I don't feel an arrow hit me but an archer saw it hit, I 'know' unequivocally, in my own head, that nothing hit me. But the archer saw something different. They might even be calling a hit on an arrow that hit me somewhere else while I was distracted by the arrow that went over my head. When you and an archer see two different things happen, and are both very convinced that your own versions of events are clearly right, someone's version has to win out. That's what this rule is for - when there's a disagreement about where an arrow hit, the archer gets to clarify these disagreements, not the person who is most convinced that their version of events is most correct (in which case, the rule would read, 'X.X.X. When and arrow strike is unclear, fighters should shout back and forth across the field where they saw the arrow land until agreement can be reached, or until someone else kills one of them.').
If you're worried about rewarding a cheating archer, tell a herald to watch them.
And Silk is spot on - the one or two mythical archers who abuse this rule (that I've not yet personally encountered) muddy the waters here. Archers should only call shots that they're 100% certain about, rather than casually tossing out, 'Arrow, head!' when - had they been more careful - they would have realized that they overshot and hit your glaive.
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