Use a little glue and maybe minimal tape and it shouldn't.Additional foam glued or otherwise bound with adhesive to the flat will cause the weapon to hit harder because that foam will resist the compression of the striking surface foam. Push a box. It moves easily. Push a box that is being held in place by two other people pushing it in opposite directions perpendicular to the direction you want to push it. Not so easy.
If one were to go with your theory, when the striking surface is properly constructed with a reasonable margin for error any minor changes such a side panel could cause should not affect overall weapon safety. If the tolerances are that close, the striking surface wasn't really safe enough, was it?
Or to put it another way, if it's safe enough today, will it be safe enough tomorrow? I understand striving for perfection, but there's a point beyond which you can go too far. Or you engineer yourself into a situation where you are constantly rebuilding the weapon.
do a light-to-medium hit test to make sure it meets that standard. How does a light-to-medium hit test ensure the safety of a weapon used with full-contact intent?
Thanks for the out-of-context quotation, but in that bit we were talking about weapon hafts. You know, a part that is not intended to be used with full-contact force. So just as we check pommels and flats differently from striking surfaces, I'd do the same sort of thing there. If we did check any or all of those with full force, nothing would pass. And as you comment below we're talking about the reality of weapons check, not some theoretical ideal.
The rules of Dagorhir require that the haft padding of flails, axes and polearms do have to be padded "as safely" as the striking surface.You're not arguing with me here. Please give attention to what the rules require and how weapons are treated in weapons check, then see the double standard and the problem with how the rule is (not) enforced.
I don't see a double standard, however I agree that it's not enforced well in the case of flail hafts.
As for your much vaunted "four pound foam", if it's newer technology, then it'll have a learning curve.Those quote marks would imply that this is some kind of weird terminology. It's not. "Four pound" refers to the density of the foam. Also, the use of four pound isn't that new, and there are people here with the experience to know how to deal with it.
No, you're misreading my use of quotations. The problem is not the type of foam, it's the term. This thread is literally the first time ever that I've seen it in writing. The foam I've probably seen and even used, if not the exact brand then something very similar.
On the other hand, if it is something new to me, I'd like to know more since I'm running a chapter out West a long way from most of Dag (and Bel) and this could be something that would be helpful to the West Coast side of this sport/hobby.
Getting p!ssy because some new latest and greatest hit a bump in the road isn't productive. You know how those improvements get made? They get made by Blackhawk saying, "Tell us what we can do better," and then people with the experience to improve the treatment of certain things saying, "This was wrong. You can do it better like this." And then we debate it, and people resist, and eventually changes get made.
No, not really, you're again out of context. Read what I said, not what you assumed
. But just to make it clear as possible - I love the technological improvements we've made in Dagorhir (and our sister sports). Not only are weapons lighter and safer, the new materials and designs allow greater creativity and variety. But when we make changes, the first question has to be: "Does this improve safety?"
Given the way that flails are often mis-used, the end of the haft should be as well padded as one of those cheesy clubs. Technically the rule you cited requires that.Thanks for the commentary. That doesn't, however, address how the weapons are actually built and tested, which is one of my points.
You're welcome. I'm more interested in how the weapons are tested. Enforce the rule as written and intended and the weapons construction would follow.