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Color choice, and layout help.
« on: June 25, 2012, 01:21:29 am »
At Ragnarok I camped with the Rangers of Ithilien and the Knights of chaos and others and I really liked the Ranger's garb, but I dont wish  to just copy it. Also my unit-under-constructions colors are deep firey red, with a black baackground and gold trim. I want all these designs split twixt the legs horseman style. I am pretty much set on a few different gambeson ideas

The first gambeson has a red outer and black inner with golden threading.

The second gambson has a golden inner with golden threading and a combinaton of red and black outer. For that It will have either the back one color and the front another or have the back, and half the inner flap in the front one color and the outer flap in the front another color.


Over the gambeson I would like a brigandine of either red or black. I would like to just have maille sleves attached to the brigandine or would that look dumb? If so I would have a hauberk underneath.

I would then have a hood with mantle to complement the brigandine, with a possible coif underneath. and maybe if I can get to it waaaaaaaaay later elbow and knee plate armor, with a helm.

Also to keep the sleeves of the hauberk out of my hands and from sagging is it faux paux to have bracers over them and greaves for my feet as well?

I know this may not come out as sensible...such is my mind, but I want a mix of the Ranger getup with that of a man at arms. I just cannot visualize it cleary. Any help would be nice. I wish I knew a police artist, so I could descibe it and get a sketch.
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Re: Color choice, and layout help.
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2012, 07:04:44 am »
Send a message to Kevat via this link- https://www.facebook.com/BadAssGarb

She made the majority of the garb you're interested in.

As far as colors, red and black are pretty overdone in dorkbattle, but the gold trim may set it apart nicely from the others.
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Re: Color choice, and layout help.
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2012, 10:16:17 am »
Sounds like you want early 14th C. gear.  The ultimate armoring resources for 14th C. are TOMAR (Techniques of Medieval Armor Reproduction, the armorer's Bible, essentially) and the Armor Archive (they have a TON of people that do 14th C. over there).  I, in fact, am always working on my own ~1360s kit (my SCA rig).

Attaching maille sleeves to a CoP sounds like a bad time; it wouldn't ride right.  It's plausibly period to wear a shirt of maille that only consists of sleeves and enough body to attach them to one another, though, if you want to wear something like that underneath of the body armor.

Look at effigies and paintings and reconstructions of European warriors from 1300-1380 or so to get an idea for what armor was being worn with what during various parts of that period; It would certainly be reasonable, during portions of that time, to wear a hauberk, CoP, spaulder, rerebrace, couter, vambrace, gauntlets, cuisses, poleyns, and fully-cased greaves (or at least shynbalds), plus sabatons, probably with a bascinet or cervelliere (over a maille coif).

Here's a pretty cool meta-analysis of English effigies of the 14th C. http://talbotsfineaccessories.com/armour/effigy/English-Effigies.htm with neat charts showing the kinds of harness components worn during various decades (of effigy date; this isn't necessarily exactly right for what was being worn when).

As far as garb goes, The Medieval Tailor's Assistant is a great reference of plausibly period construction methods that produce (allegedly; I haven't made anything from my copy yet) very good, correct-looking garments.  It covers 1200-1500, including a variety of surcote and jupon options, as well as doublets (which are very nearly arming pourpoints in their own right), cotes, tunics, cotehardies, and gowns.

If you can find the Osprey military history series of medieval men-at-arms and knights, you may find some decent pictorial references.

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Re: Color choice, and layout help.
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2012, 10:14:20 pm »
Now that I have been mulling it over and based off of my character, I want the hauberk definately but how could I add a bit of japanese flair..? Like i want the majority european but i want everyone to know that there was a big japanese influence.
So I have the hauberk and I was thinking some leather armor on top of it would be cool, and shoulder armor like on this guy's left shoulder  . with bracers and greaves. would the shoulder armor be a bit much though?
« Last Edit: June 26, 2012, 10:42:15 pm by Cpt. Rojji »
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Re: Color choice, and layout help.
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2012, 10:24:38 am »
Now that I have been mulling it over and based off of my character, I want the hauberk definately but how could I add a bit of japanese flair..?

Yeah, I'm done helping here.

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